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I'm afraid that individual perception of "cigar flavors" differs from one individual to the next. I have never associated the aroma of Samsun (or any other Oriental) with "cigar flavors". Burley and Maryland varieties each have their own distinctive aroma profiles. And I have never considered industrial cigarettes to present anything even vaguely approaching a neutral flavor. Since, historically, nearly every variety of tobacco has appeared at some time or place in "tobacco rolled within tobacco"—the definition of a cigar, you will have to sample a few choices, and see what you prefer.

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Do the Burley and Maryland 609 have cigar flavors like the Samsun? Or more neutral flavors like virginia?
I'll probably order the Burley and Maryland 609 to mix with the Virginia (if they don't taste like cigars).
Thanks for all the advice.
I am Canadian the Burley has the cigar flavour. Maryland would have that American cigar taste.
 

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Virginias are a complex I had a conversation with Don in an email when I ordered from Big. Americans think virginia is all the same and it isn't. Some are sweet some are light some are raunchy. Others are woody. Others are silky. You want all virginias from what you are explaining.
 

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The smoke of flue-cured tobacco and sun-cured Oriental has a lower pH, that is, more acidic, and more tip of the tongue bite. The smoke of air-cured Virginias and air-cured Orientals has a somewhat higher pH, that is, somewhat less acidic, and somewhat closer to neutral pH. The smoke of burley and Maryland varieties has higher pH than the air-cured Virginias, that is, somewhat more alkaline (more basic). The smoke of most cigar varieties and of dark air-cured varieties has the highest pH of most cured tobaccos, that is, most alkaline (most basic), and more back of the tongue bite.

The magic is that, by blending, you can achieve smoke that is not only pH balanced, but has neither tip of the tongue or back of the tongue bite. The tongue does not perceive any acid/base sensation within the magic zone.

Unfortunately, since pH is a physical chemistry unit, it seems counter intuitive: low pH means high acidity; high pH means lower acidity. Your body tissues average a pH of about 7.4.

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Excerpted from image by biologist Mike Jones.

As you can see from the above (modern) image of tongue taste zones, most of the tongue can taste most categories [sour, bitter, salty, sweet, umami] of sensation (here showing just sour, which results from low pH, and bitter, which results from high pH). But the tip of the tongue is more sensitive to low pH, while the back and sides of the tongue are more sensitive to high pH. (Curiously, flavors are sensed only by the nose.) What the images cannot show is that these relative sensitivities vary from one person to the next.

Bob
 

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I know when WLT gets burley it's really good the problem is that American cigs suck. Thus the region in which virginia is grown is very important when buying tobacco. Thus that is why there is Virginia blends. Canadian Virginia is light smooth and sweet. The US Viriginia not as much. It;s the blending that makes the smoke.
 

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Not an easy question as we don't have the same cigarettes in every country ahah (im from France). The best way is to try the different varieties and find your thing apparently. I'm going to try the varieties I find on websites in Europe to get them faster, and if they don't suit me then I'll get some imported, I can see that you have a lot more choice than we do in Europe.
 
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