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A number of brothers at both sites have asked me to evaluate the home rolled cigars I received during the Drumroll Please contest. Contestants, put on your thick skins, cause I intend to be as frank as always.




The winner Buck sent three cigars. One was his entry. One was something he can get in Canada, but which we cannot get here in the USA because if we keep it up long enough those commies will leave the island so that the Mafia can have back their casinos. One was an uncapped robusto which he asked me to try. I begin with this latter cigar:
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Buck tells me the wrapper and binder are Aleman, the filler 2 parts Dom Seco, 2 parts Criollo 98, with one part Nic Habano Viso. Construction I would rate as fairly good. Equally firm end to end. Rolls true across a flat surface. Just a mite skinnier in the middle than on the ends; but not much. The fact it had no cap was inconvenient, because it required close inspection to figure which end to light. Also the wrapper appeared to be glued along its whole length. Most remarkable was the way the filler leaves were rolled up before binding. Look at this pic:
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Despite that rolled up filler, which looks like you'd create a soda straw effect, I'd describe the draw on this as medium.


The stick had a fine chocolate and barn aroma. The wrapper tasted dark chocolate. But as soon as I lit the thing, my impression went way downhill. It lit damn sour. Volume was real small. Burnt well, tho. So I kept at it for twenty minutes, hoping the sour would go away as I crawled up the stick. It did not. I would describe this as fermented horehound with notes of tennis shoe.


After 1 1/4" of fine burn, the cherry suddenly tunnelled and went out. No way was I about to relight this. As a matter of fact, even after rye whisky, my mouth tasted so bad I gave up smoking for the day. That night, Bearswatter got up and slept in her recliner because she said my mouth was stinking up the bedroom.


Next day, I pulled out Buck's contest entry. Figured I'd give that a go:
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This cigar was very nice and firm throughout. Had an earthy odor to it. Except at the cap, where a white mold, a soggy feel, and a sour aroma greeted me. Sogginess was most apparent under my knife when I uncapped it. The draw was easy. There was an attractive earthy flavor to the wrapper, and a similar flavor to the draw. One match toasted the foot into life. There was real good volume. But the burn alternated between excellent and dying. Meanwhile, the flavor alternated between an excellent mellow habano and that same sour stinkage. You have seen a wavy burn? This cigar had a tsunami burn. Look at this pic:
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See how it refuses to burn anywhere near a vein?


Here's where I figured it out: Buck's cigars were too wet. I think he probably wet the binder and wrapper trying to get it flexible enough to shape round that oddball drumstick shape. I left them in his plastic bag inside a package sealed up with layers of plastic and tape. The head molded. the other got too damp, the tobacco started fermenting, and so it's all my fault why they tasted sour and burnt poorly. Sorry Buck; I ruined your samples.


My project today is to get each entry out of its plastic so it can air dry properly before I test anything else. These will have to age before I can get a true test.


Except for Mad O'Shea's cigars. His artistic presentation nesting his cigars in foam inside a fancy box will have allowed them to dry out. He's got a whole batch of different smokes in there for me to try, starting later today. I will wait until after handball, though, cause I'll be panting hard enough without smoking first.


By the way, I smoked Buck's third cigar, the one from the island which we discreetly shall not mention, last night watching UFC and drinking beer. This one did not seem to have been waterboarded like the other two in the package. I have not smoked many examples of this forbidden fruit; but this example was well and away the best one I have tried. Loved it. Mellow and dark, smooth and flavorful. Right on! Viva Batista!

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I know I promised to smoke Mad O'Shea's cigars next. But I have this curiosity eating at me about the two little Fat Dutchmen, so I had to bust into hit Ben Brand's package next.


Ben tells us his wrapper was Pen Red, his binder a Connecticut broadleaf, filler a blend of Little Dutch ligero, hue huetenango viso, flor sumatra seco, and Pennsylvania broadleaf volado. This is one whole heck of a lot of flavors to stuff into a wee stick scarcely 3 1/2" long. But after smoking this little gem, I can tell you this much without any doubt: It works.


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You stick this under your nose, you can't help but think of pipe tobacco. The skin of it is knobbly. It has a tangy sweet berry taste -- I think of acerola berries, if I can remember them right. It feels hard and tight. Most all the drumstick knob of it is on one side. The cap is flat.


When I cut the cap off, the tobacco felt rubbery. Unlit draw was like one of those cherry pipe tobaccos. A tight draw.


Lights pretty easy. Away we go. Scant smoke, aromatic, delicious fruity flavor. The smokle was hot hot. Even the stick was hot to hold. I would love to try at least a robusto with this blend, where the draw could be fuller, and the smoke would have a chance to cool. Even the ash of this smells good. A solid steady slow slow burn. This tiny stick lasted me a good hour and a half. Probably the cleanest finish I have ever had in a cigar. Trying to sniff the stinkfinger of it now, but all I get is the ghost of Cutter's I spread to keep skeeters off.


If you like the smell of pipe tobacco, you would love Ben Brand's cigar blend. I did. Great smoke.


Scarfing some ham and smashed beans now. I'll get into a Fat Dutchman later. MMA on the toob all night.
 

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Hey Ben, I fired up one of your little Fat Dutchman cigars last night. It was pretty good. It's giving me a nice tasty morning mouth right now, too.

I liked your blend better though.
 

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Sometimes I wish I could like flavored cigars. They smell OK, gotta admit. I used to like sherry flavored pipe tobacco, years ago. A lot of people seem to like infused cigars. My brother in law, that's all he wants, is coffee sticks. Me, I have never had a flavored cigar that I enjoyed. Feel like I must be missing something. Way it is.

ArizonaDave likes them so much he goes to all of the trouble of making them. He sent a fistful of cigars with his contest entry, and I can't tell how many were flavored, cause the flavoring smells up the whole bag of them. Like this one I tried yesterday:
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The label on it advertises 2005 Aleman and Piloto Cubano. But I know there's got to be other stuff in there too. Not only because of the aroma, but also because when you look at the foot, you see a variety of fillers, going by the colors:
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This cigar was gently and evenly tapered from the foot to the head. There was no cap. The veins were coarse and lengthwise. It felt equally firm throughout. There was a fruity odor to the foot. I guessed vanilla and molasses and some elusive type of berry. AZDave later tells me it was vanilla and Malibu coconut rum. It had a medium tight draw unlit. There was not much flavor to the unlit draw, except for that same fruity odor. Pretty hard to light. Scanty smoke. But a real good burn. There was a mild wood tobacco flavor; but the rest was this molasses and vanilla thing. Combined, it reminded me of a granola bar. I even reached into my camping supplies and pulled out a granola bar to compare, and ate that. Similar. Oatmeal, honey, and some kinda berry. The flavor was actually better if I went real slow, letting it rest a lot between hits. But if I tried to get any volume, I'd produce that hot sour taste that makes me dislike infused cigars. I especially didn't like the second half. Seems like I ran into stronger infusion there. Flat cherry. Ash hung real tight. Nice stinkfinger afterwards. Pleasant morning mouth today. No wheeze.

Don't take it personal.. I'm sure it's my fault. I don't even like it when they bring my beer with a lemon slice in the neck of it. Hate that. Gets me pissy with the waiter. Can't stand those Belgian ales with fruity flavors. Barley, Yeast, Water, Hops -- that's all I need. Would no more drink Malibu than kerosene. Gimme that Anejo straight up. If they ever brought back the Man Laws panel and applied it to cigars, I'd vote for "Don't fruit the baccy" for Man Law #1.

If it ain't worth smokin, vanilla won't rescue it, my theory.

Must be missing something.

I'm gonna try another one of his stix, one not juiced up. I am sure it will be tasty.
 

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That is funny. I guess You will find out why the ones I sent are called the five brouthers grim. They are all different. I too like a good roast.LOL The acsent was Latkia. The box was to keep them from getting out and killing the postman.Mad-
 

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The uncapped one was sitting in my humi for a few weeks so it should have gotten to you in a pretty good dry state. Reason for it not being capped, sorry I never capped a cigar before (Glued along the entire length for that reason). I'm a newbie with maybe 30-40 rolled sticks under my belt. I used the book style rolling method which is why the foot looks as it does. I have to admit that I never got a really good burn off the book method but not as bad as you described.

The drumstick roll was in my humi for one week at %65-70 same as first sample. The cap was my every first attempt ever so looking back I believe that I over saturated it with glue which is probably why you can see some residual white powder and why it was mushy.
Wrapper/binder, you are correct there I may have wet them more due to wrapping,unwrapping trying to get the correct shape.

Well at least you enjoyed one of the sticks, the one I didn't roll. That was sent to you as you b-day gift so I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
 

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I tried the one with brown band (light brown wrapper) I think that is the COBRE .. nice creamy nutty oily flavors. Smoked it to the nub which is rare for me because smokes usually get hot and bitter near the end but this one was good to the very last inch.

Can't wait to try the others, maybe another tonight.
 

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Try a GRIM between. LOL You will have a treat to share. (ROAST) Mad- YOU KNOW I AM MAD? Happy Birthday...........Knuck's still gets My contendor......................
 

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Don't feel bad. Roger Ebert gave a "thumbs down" review of Titanic. If you like your cigars, keep on rolling.

When I sent 10 of my own hand-rolled cigars to my brother as a Christmas gift a few years ago, his only comment was, "they're a little weak." No thanks. No "nice rolling." I just stopped sending him my cigars. He prefers industrial sticks, so that's what I send. And I love my cigars.

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I keep coming back to this thread and rereading the review of my sticks, really disappointed that they smoked like donkey turd.

Don't feel bad Buck! My review was just as bad, if not worse. I never put and berries in mine or whatever, and vanilla/rum is an old Cuban recipe, and he didn't like it, although I've had many friends say they were fantastic.

The "sour" comes from fruit pectin usually after a month. You probably usually smoke them under that time, so there's no way you'd know it was there. Combine that with summer heat, and it can go down hill fast. The winter though, he'd have never tasted it. and I believe it's colder there than most of the states.

I thought you did great!!!
 

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Don't worry Buck. The baccy I rolled with was "ALL" FTT tobacco. LOL Just the roll was what I was looking at. I put in two types of leaf (Mine) And - Then, Knucks, Boboro, Bigbonner, BT and desertpipe. If I get a roast, Every one gets one LOL. The Mix I did was different for all of the FIVE BROUTHERS GRIM. So I am waighting for the roast. Great rolls buddy. I'll pull one for You-- The pics are the roll, Not how they tast. Hum,,,I guess. Web sent Me a turd that was folded in 1/4th way.....Mad. Still sending the contenor to knucks.
 

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I keep coming back to this thread and rereading the review of my sticks, really disappointed that they smoked like donkey turd.
Nah, don't take it that way, Buck. No accounting for taste. Hey, there's guys love Coke to death. Me, I'm a Pepsi guy. What can you say? Fact of the matter, it was my own fault for smoking them wet. Paid no attention.

All I can do is be honest.

Smoking a Grim tonight. Mad, get hold of me, and tell me what's inside the Grim right dead center on your box.
 

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Latakia ,Buley,Oscuro,Macedonia MD609, Izmir and a pinch of Ecuador. Enjoy. the # 3. Mad- May tast fruity with the Latakia. But they are all diferent. LOL Wait till You drink a pepsi then He will come to life for You. I prefer coffee over candy. You will never forget........
 

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Ya I'm fine, not making a big deal out of it really. Webmost appreciate your honestly keep it up.
The sticks couldn't have been that bad, using good leaf and all so leaving them in plastic for a week or more did something to them in the end. When I roll them at home they are smokable, not the best but not bad.
 

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Latakia ,Buley,Oscuro,Macedonia MD609, Izmir and a pinch of Ecuador. Enjoy. the # 3. Mad- May tast fruity with the Latakia. But they are all diferent. LOL Wait till You drink a pepsi then He will come to life for You. I prefer coffee over candy. You will never forget........
I'm thinking burley is the wrapper, right? Is that the same wrapper on all of them?
 

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Mad, what's in this third one from the left? Smells like smoke cured goodness.

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