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I'll accept the assumption that ARS-GRIN meant "filler" when they typed "filled," but if you can't accept the purest concept in the world, a number, at its face value, then it has no value.

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Jessica said there were problems during transcription of records that drove her nuts in her work. This tends to lend strength to your statement.
 

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I'll accept the assumption that ARS-GRIN meant "filler" when they typed "filled," but if you can't accept the purest concept in the world, a number, at its face value, then it has no value.

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What if we accept the number and assume they meant grams?
 

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Maybe my aging eyes are getting the best of me, and my decimals are challenged, but by my math, 892 kilograms = 1966.52 pounds. That's per plant--as in attack of the killer tobacco. I'm just saying the ARS-GRIN yield numbers are from the twilight zone.

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Yes Deluxe but .892 is 1.966 Lol ARS-Grin had me all screwed up they don't place a decimal in that case 892 kg is 1966.52 pounds and when working with plants of this type you don't grow the whole plant just a tiny piece of it.
The Twilight Zone is SciFi these things are real it's just no one has fond them Yet.
 

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What if we accept the number and assume they meant grams?
I think they definitely intended the unit to be in troy scruples. If you scan through several dozen random ARS-GRIN accessions for KG yield per plant, they range from ridiculously microscopic to laughably gargantuan. They are clearly in error by + or - 10[sup]3[/sup]. Burger King Quarter-Pounder vs. Ford Excursion. Fantasy.

If you want to know, you've got to measure it.

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Thanks for the comments guys it's encouraging I've been trying to get it right real hard. Always killed everything in the past (was 1 veggie garden than never tried again). When I started this the wife says to me you'll
kill em why bother. Now she walks the patch with me and we are talking a few veggies next year.

Been looking through your grow blog tonight and at your picts. I have to say that you have one of the best looking tobacco patches I have seen. It's all very professional looking. Great job on the weed control too. Keeping those darn weeds out makes a big difference in the end. Keep it up. :)

I'd like to try that Big Gold 5210. That looks interesting.
 
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^^^^^^

i agree, amax. is very close to detail...

i bet a string would be straight on his rows,

i like to drink beer before i hit my patch,,,, my rows, have a slight right hand curve to them:eek:
 

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^^^^^^

i agree, amax. is very close to detail...

i bet a string would be straight on his rows,

i like to drink beer before i hit my patch,,,, my rows, have a slight right hand curve to them:eek:

Try holding your beer in your other hand half the time. ;)

All my rows are measured out and laid out with strings. Plants are spaced at EXACTLY 2 feet and must line up in all directions, including diagonally. I screwed up measuring one row this year and it will haunt me all season now. arrgghh My wife thinks I'm nuts, but it's gotta look good for the google spy satellite, right?
 

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Try holding your beer in your other hand half the time. ;)

All my rows are measured out and laid out with strings. Plants are spaced at EXACTLY 2 feet and must line up in all directions, including diagonally. I screwed up measuring one row this year and it will haunt me all season now. arrgghh My wife thinks I'm nuts, but it's gotta look good for the google spy satellite, right?
Yeah, but it's good for the Narcs. Pot heads aren't so neat and tidy. You'll get off unscathed.
 

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Ilooked up my house on that the other day. Seein the yard from space is eye open and a little creapy. Lookin around in the neabors backyard was never so easy. My rows look a little crooked
 

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Ilooked up my house on that the other day. Seein the yard from space is eye open and a little creapy. Lookin around in the neabors backyard was never so easy. My rows look a little crooked
Nah! It's the beer twisting your view of the screen. LOL
 

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I try to make ugly words for them to read with my layout. :cool:
Try holding your beer in your other hand half the time. ;)

All my rows are measured out and laid out with strings. Plants are spaced at EXACTLY 2 feet and must line up in all directions, including diagonally. I screwed up measuring one row this year and it will haunt me all season now. arrgghh My wife thinks I'm nuts, but it's gotta look good for the google spy satellite, right?
 

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Say Guys
Anyone know much about Southern Bacterial Wilt? I got back this evening checking my patch at dusk and found one of my African Reds with a single drooped leaf no sign of damage.
Just the one leaf hanging at the stalk wilted. Have been looking it up on line and came up with this bacteria as a possible.

Will remove the leaf in the morning to test as much as I can

Bacterial Wilt Overview

Bacterial wilt is the most serious of the soil borne diseases of tobacco in South Carolina. It is very difficult to manage. The disease is concentrated in the eastern-most counties in the Pee Dee Region, but is present and increasing in severity in other important tobacco-producing counties.

Symptoms of bacterial wilt appear first as a wilt of leaves on one side of the plant. Eventually, the entire plant wilts, and infected plants usually die. Stalks appear dark brown or black at the ground level and look very much like black shank. However, bacterial wilt-infected plants have black streaks in the tissue just under the outer bark. Portions of lower stalk tissue will ooze milky strands of bacteria when placed in a clear container of water.
Bacterial wilt is a disease that is caused by a bacterium (Ralstonia solanacearum), which lives in the soil. These bacteria cause disease when they infect the roots through wounds. Any type of root wounding provides an entry point for infection. Therefore, shallow cultivation will help to avoid wounding roots, which provide points for infection. Natural wounds occur in the root system as a result of root growth through the soil; therefore, a certain amount of natural infection can take place, if the bacterial population is high enough in the soil around the root system.
The bacterium that causes bacterial wilt also infects a number of other crop plants, such as tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant and peanuts. Ragweed is a very common weed that is a host for the bacterium. Therefore, it is very important to recognize and control this weed thoroughly in areas planned for tobacco. The bacteria are very persistent in soil, and long rotations (three years or longer) may be necessary in some fields to assist in managing the disease. Rotation is imperative for management. Multipurpose chemicals (Telone C-17 and Chlor-O-Pic) also assist in control.
Several new varieties with high resistance are available, which also assist in control. New and older varieties with fairly high resistance include CC 13, CC 27, CC 37, CC 700, GL 939, K 149, K 346, NC 196, NC 299, NC 810, PVH 2110, SP 168, SP 210, SP 220, SP 225, SP 227, SP 234, SP 236, and SP NF 3 (tobacco variety test). Bacterial wilt MUST be managed by a combination of rotation, variety selection, and possible use of multipurpose chemicals. Other helpful practices include root and stalk destruction, enhanced soil drainage (utilize a high wide bed) and early shallow cultivation to avoid root wounding. It is also VERY IMPORTANT to avoid spread of bacterial wilt by movement of infested soil on farm equipment or by other means. The following tables show results of on-farm tests utilizing rotation, varieties and multipurpose chemicals for control of bacterial wilt.

Mechanical Spread of Bacterial Wilt

It is generally believed that infection of tobacco in the field occurs through the root system. The rapid spread of bacterial wilt within South Carolina suggests that the organism is being spread in a more rapid and efficient manner that would be expected solely by the movement of soil on equipment. County agents in South Carolina have observed an increase of hollow stalk. Hollow stalk is a disease normally caused by an Erwinia soft rot bacterium. The use of new diagnostic procedures at Clemson University have allowed use to identify bacteria to species and many of the cases of hollow stalk have been identified as Ralstonia solanacearum, the causal organism of bacterial wilt of tobacco. If inoculated onto a cut tobacco stalk, Ralstonia solanacearum will invade the plant and produce symptoms very similar to hollow stalk disease.
Field trials conducted at the Pee Dee REC and on farm have shown that the bacterium can be spread very easily during mechanical topping and harvesting. If the topper was driven through infected tobacco the mechanical topper transmitted the pathogen easily to health tobacco. A 3-4 week delay was observed before symptoms appeared. The only effective method of removing the bacterium from the cutter blades was steam or a 50% Clorox solution. Further work is underway to define the role of mechanical topping, harvesting and stalk destruction on disease spread and to develop sanitation procedures to limit the spread of this devastating pathogen on machinery (see tables).



Best Management System
The following points should be considered to help control mechanical
transmission of bacterial wilt:

  1. Crop rotation to include soybeans
  2. Use of host resistance
  3. Multipurpose soil fumigation
  4. Hand topping or prioritize order of topping, and harvesting (healthy tobacco first). Consider use of the redesigned topper blade based on the Burch system, redesigned toppers will be available in limited supply in 2008 (see table)
  5. Eliminate or reduce stalk wounding at harvest. Keep harvesters clean and properly adjusted to avoid stem injury and operate mechanical harvesters at the proper speed.
  6. Use Roundup to kill stalks or immediate stalk destruction following last harvest
  7. Maintain proper drainage in field
  8. Use of a winter cover crop
 

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Single leaf on an otherwise healthy plant? I have one exactly like that. On close inspection I found a small hole in the stalk an inch or so below the leaf node. Some type of insect I think.
 

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Single leaf on an otherwise healthy plant? I have one exactly like that. On close inspection I found a small hole in the stalk an inch or so below the leaf node. Some type of insect I think.

How did it look this morning?

I did have a few tiny holes in the leaf after looking at it this morning but saw nothing in the stem/veins/midrib/stalk if it is this bacteria it could be spread by handling so I'll do as recommended and leave it alone. Harvest around it
and when done with that cut this plant and inspect it for the signs.
Did a short vid clip of it will upload and post soon.
 

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Been looking through your grow blog tonight and at your picts. I have to say that you have one of the best looking tobacco patches I have seen. It's all very professional looking. Great job on the weed control too. Keeping those darn weeds out makes a big difference in the end. Keep it up. :)

I'd like to try that Big Gold 5210. That looks interesting.

Good morning skychaser
The Big Gold 5210 is interesting it is a large dense plant (big heavy leaves) with a 100 day cycle if I remember correctly grows to about 6'
I'll send you seed if you like when the time comes.
 

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If it does turn out to be SBW then I'd use gloves and when removed take about 3 cubic feet of dirt from around the root ball. Then bleach the ground where it was just in case. You can always rebuild on bleached dirt. Good Luck!
 
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