Bob bags a BigBonner Burley break behind barren baccy beds.
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Bob bags a BigBonner Burley break behind barren baccy beds.
Is that a cigar you are holding or do you need a new shovel handle ,you have wore that one plum out .
Larry,
That photo was taken at 3:00 pm. It's now nearly 6:00 pm, and I'm just now getting down to the butt.
Bob
That photo was taken at 3:00 pm. It's now nearly 6:00 pm, and I'm just now getting down to the butt.
Bob
You are going to wear out your "B" button at this rate!
Oh and nice stogie!
Oh and nice stogie!
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Is that Sunshine ?
I haven't seen sunshine in a long time
I haven't seen sunshine in a long time
Now thats a break . three hours long .
Steve2md
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3+ hour cigar! Seem an awful lot like work to me...
Latest word from Celikhan Valley:
It was looking like my Celikhan would be a bust for this season. I've started it three separate times, and stared at inert seed on a daily basis. Today, the second batch, started 9 days ago, has begun to germinate.
On an even happier note, of my three attempts at Long Red, the second batch, started 15 days ago, has begun to germinate.
I have CT 49 (a CT shade variety from Marylander on HTGT, and still in its original ARS-GRIN packet) looking like it may go as well.
The two ancient varieties (Big White Burley KY16 and Sweet Oronoko) are still recalcitrant children, but I retain a glimmer of hope for them.
It's amazing what can be accomplished while remaining in a seated position. (Note photo, above, of my germination methodology.)
Bob
It was looking like my Celikhan would be a bust for this season. I've started it three separate times, and stared at inert seed on a daily basis. Today, the second batch, started 9 days ago, has begun to germinate.
On an even happier note, of my three attempts at Long Red, the second batch, started 15 days ago, has begun to germinate.
I have CT 49 (a CT shade variety from Marylander on HTGT, and still in its original ARS-GRIN packet) looking like it may go as well.
The two ancient varieties (Big White Burley KY16 and Sweet Oronoko) are still recalcitrant children, but I retain a glimmer of hope for them.
It's amazing what can be accomplished while remaining in a seated position. (Note photo, above, of my germination methodology.)
Bob
Bursting the tech bubble:
Well, so far as I can tell, the Celikhan is still going nowhere. Both that and the Long Red in their second batches got as far as a white tip, then croaked. For both of these, I started a 3rd batch on 4/6, adding a light spray of GA-3. At 10 days, the Long Red has two healthy looking seedlings, while the Celikhan only gives me hints.
The CT 49 (only one batch started) is not showing much activity.
In an earlier post I commented on the dramatic difference in growth rate between two different germination mixes. Only my first wave of starts had that comparison. The Miracle-Gro peat mix (which comes with a wetting agent, and is already pH balanced) significantly outperformed the mix based on coir.
Here are the two flats that show that comparison after 5 weeks.
Keep in mind that the runty half of each tray contains varieties matching those on the rapidly growing half, and were planted at the exact same time. The trays have been rotated from time to time, to equalize the sun exposure of each half. It's the germination mix.
Today, I moved the two tall halves into the same flat (so now that flat contains 12 varieties), and gave them a haircut. Since I can't do it like Larry's NCO Barber Shop method, I used a pair of scissors and clipped each leaf by hand. This first wave won't go into the ground for another two weeks, minimum.
Bob
Well, so far as I can tell, the Celikhan is still going nowhere. Both that and the Long Red in their second batches got as far as a white tip, then croaked. For both of these, I started a 3rd batch on 4/6, adding a light spray of GA-3. At 10 days, the Long Red has two healthy looking seedlings, while the Celikhan only gives me hints.
The CT 49 (only one batch started) is not showing much activity.
In an earlier post I commented on the dramatic difference in growth rate between two different germination mixes. Only my first wave of starts had that comparison. The Miracle-Gro peat mix (which comes with a wetting agent, and is already pH balanced) significantly outperformed the mix based on coir.
Here are the two flats that show that comparison after 5 weeks.
Keep in mind that the runty half of each tray contains varieties matching those on the rapidly growing half, and were planted at the exact same time. The trays have been rotated from time to time, to equalize the sun exposure of each half. It's the germination mix.
Today, I moved the two tall halves into the same flat (so now that flat contains 12 varieties), and gave them a haircut. Since I can't do it like Larry's NCO Barber Shop method, I used a pair of scissors and clipped each leaf by hand. This first wave won't go into the ground for another two weeks, minimum.
Bob
I've got ct49 from the grin, if you want to see if that one germs better send me an address. Grew fine for me last year.
Smokes,
I've just started a second batch of the CT49 (which came in its GRIN envelope from Marylander on HTGT, don't know the date he acquired it from ARS-GRIN), with a whiff of GA-3. I appreciate your offer. I feel that I'm approaching the drop dead date for starting seed with any expectation of making seed from it. If this is unsuccessful, then perhaps I could bum some of the seed from you for next season.
Bob
I've just started a second batch of the CT49 (which came in its GRIN envelope from Marylander on HTGT, don't know the date he acquired it from ARS-GRIN), with a whiff of GA-3. I appreciate your offer. I feel that I'm approaching the drop dead date for starting seed with any expectation of making seed from it. If this is unsuccessful, then perhaps I could bum some of the seed from you for next season.
Bob
BarG
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Sunset in Texas, This reminded me of your avatar Deluxe.
The avatar is a landscape that I created in Bryce about 7 years ago. It's actually a 3D model of a body of water with several land masses, in which the "camera" (and the "sun") can be moved to any perspective, kind of like walking around with a camera to get a nice view. The water, sky, land and tree are nothing but fractals with varying surface textures and reflectivity.
I realized, several years after creating it, that it bore a strong resemblance to an original chalk drawing that now hangs on my living room wall of Okaloosa Bayou (near Ft. Walton Beach, FL), which was drawn by Wayne Burkholder in 1984. I purchased it there when I was stationed at Eglin AFB, at that time, and didn't hang it until about two years ago.
It's amazing how the subconscious works. After creating the 3D model, I "flew" around it with its "camera", until a particular perspective seemed like a perfect view.
Bob
I realized, several years after creating it, that it bore a strong resemblance to an original chalk drawing that now hangs on my living room wall of Okaloosa Bayou (near Ft. Walton Beach, FL), which was drawn by Wayne Burkholder in 1984. I purchased it there when I was stationed at Eglin AFB, at that time, and didn't hang it until about two years ago.
It's amazing how the subconscious works. After creating the 3D model, I "flew" around it with its "camera", until a particular perspective seemed like a perfect view.
Bob
BarG
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Thats so cool Bob. I had no idea..
Ah, Destin, Okaloosa, one of my favorite areas, only 45 minutes away.
Clipping the Leaves
No photos here. Just a discussion. I've noticed that when the leaves are clipped, the stalk becomes thicker, the roots become more robust, and the color of the leaf becomes a darker green, suggesting an increase in chlorophyll.
I read through a number of articles on plant response to insect herbivorous damage. It seems that leaf damage (being eaten or clipped) sends a chemical message to the roots to increase their alkaloid (nicotine, etc.) production. This might account for the increase in the root structure. I suppose that the decreased leaf area signals the lamina to produce more chlorophyll. I'm not sure what specifically accounts for the thickening of the stalk.
While BigBonner has observed these effects from routine clipping to keep the plants roughly the same size and not shade each other--a significant issue when the transplanting will be automated, it really seems to be of benefit to the home grower raising a few hundred plants.
Last year, when the plants outgrew my 72-cell trays, I transplanted them into 3" pots, until they were ready to go into the ground. By comparison, the clipped plants from this year, still in their 48-cell trays, are hardier and appear healthier than last years re-potted plants. The clipping, which I performed with a pair of scissors, seems time consuming. But compared to the cost and time required to manually transplant them to a temporary, larger pot, the clipping is definitely the way to go. It's cheaper, requires less work, and results in healthier plants with a nice root ball.
Yesterday, I checked the 10-day weather forecast one last time, then went ahead and put my first wave into the ground (11 varieties: 44 plants). Each area is now covered with floating layer of Agribon-AG15 (anchored with strategically placed rocks), to minimize the weeds, bugs, evil rains and curious birds. The second wave (14 varieties) will likely go in next weekend, then the final wave a week after that.
I've gotten nothing from Sweet Oronoko, Big White Burley KY16, Celikhan and CT49. Only two itsy bitsy seedlings of Long Red have managed to germinate. So I'll have a bit of room to place a few of the sturdy extras and strays.
Right now, the planted beds look like bed sheets on the ground.
Bob
No photos here. Just a discussion. I've noticed that when the leaves are clipped, the stalk becomes thicker, the roots become more robust, and the color of the leaf becomes a darker green, suggesting an increase in chlorophyll.
I read through a number of articles on plant response to insect herbivorous damage. It seems that leaf damage (being eaten or clipped) sends a chemical message to the roots to increase their alkaloid (nicotine, etc.) production. This might account for the increase in the root structure. I suppose that the decreased leaf area signals the lamina to produce more chlorophyll. I'm not sure what specifically accounts for the thickening of the stalk.
While BigBonner has observed these effects from routine clipping to keep the plants roughly the same size and not shade each other--a significant issue when the transplanting will be automated, it really seems to be of benefit to the home grower raising a few hundred plants.
Last year, when the plants outgrew my 72-cell trays, I transplanted them into 3" pots, until they were ready to go into the ground. By comparison, the clipped plants from this year, still in their 48-cell trays, are hardier and appear healthier than last years re-potted plants. The clipping, which I performed with a pair of scissors, seems time consuming. But compared to the cost and time required to manually transplant them to a temporary, larger pot, the clipping is definitely the way to go. It's cheaper, requires less work, and results in healthier plants with a nice root ball.
Yesterday, I checked the 10-day weather forecast one last time, then went ahead and put my first wave into the ground (11 varieties: 44 plants). Each area is now covered with floating layer of Agribon-AG15 (anchored with strategically placed rocks), to minimize the weeds, bugs, evil rains and curious birds. The second wave (14 varieties) will likely go in next weekend, then the final wave a week after that.
I've gotten nothing from Sweet Oronoko, Big White Burley KY16, Celikhan and CT49. Only two itsy bitsy seedlings of Long Red have managed to germinate. So I'll have a bit of room to place a few of the sturdy extras and strays.
Right now, the planted beds look like bed sheets on the ground.
Bob
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