deluxestogie Grow Log 2014
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Boboro,
Try making a Stevia tea, and spraying it on the next batch of aphids that show up.
The non-nutritive (we can't digest it) sweetener in both Stevia and the manufactured Truvia is erythrotol. Walmart carries both, so anyone in the US can give it a try on aphids.
My suspicion is that it won't work, since aphids suck nutrients out of the tobacco, rather than eat or lick the leaf surface. Fruit flies (like the ones killed by erythrotol) lick the surface of their food.
Boboro,
Forget about spraying it on aphids. You might do better to use it to sweeten some iced tea.
Bob
Try making a Stevia tea, and spraying it on the next batch of aphids that show up.
The non-nutritive (we can't digest it) sweetener in both Stevia and the manufactured Truvia is erythrotol. Walmart carries both, so anyone in the US can give it a try on aphids.
My suspicion is that it won't work, since aphids suck nutrients out of the tobacco, rather than eat or lick the leaf surface. Fruit flies (like the ones killed by erythrotol) lick the surface of their food.
Boboro,
Forget about spraying it on aphids. You might do better to use it to sweeten some iced tea.
Bob
Boboro
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If I had more time I could slove the obesity problem
The Day After Some Actual Rain
The last of the Agribon floating cover will come off after the current storms pass.
I had one more VA Bright mortality than I had extras. I improvised by planting another of my VA Bright senior citizens (2012) into the bed.
Which one is different?
Some varieties just comport themselves in a promising way early in the season.
Vuelta Abajo.
Others behave in a less mature manner.
Young CT Broadleaf pretends to be maduro.
Bob
The last of the Agribon floating cover will come off after the current storms pass.
I had one more VA Bright mortality than I had extras. I improvised by planting another of my VA Bright senior citizens (2012) into the bed.
Which one is different?
Some varieties just comport themselves in a promising way early in the season.
Vuelta Abajo.
Others behave in a less mature manner.
Young CT Broadleaf pretends to be maduro.
Bob
rustycase
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lol
Looks like the mailman was there in the 2nd picture of the family!
rc
Looks like the mailman was there in the 2nd picture of the family!
rc
Yeah. That one has been in a 3-1/2" pot for 2 years. Pot is not entirely harmless.lol
Looks like the mailman was there in the 2nd picture of the family!
rc
Bob
BarG
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Olor Comparison
Some of you may recall that when I grew the GRIN accession labeled "WRAPPER (DOM REP)" I compared its appearance to every Dominican cigar variety that I could locate, and decided that it was, in fact, Dominican Olor. Since then, I've simply called it Olor.
This season, with seed provided by GRIN (through Jessica), I began a comparison grow:
They were transplanted to the bed on 5/14/2014. So they are about 3 weeks old.
- my "Olor" from the Dominican Republic
- Olor 1542 (Puerto Rico)
- Olor 1377 (Puerto Rico)
- Seleccion Olor (Puerto Rico)
While all of the vary a bit from plant to plant, I believe that they all look pretty much the same, so far: leaf size, leaf shape, vein angle, vigor.
I will be able to tell more with all the parameters from the adult plants, and will post comparison photos as the season progresses.
Bob
Bob, I have one of my plants mislabled. A beautiful healthy one, mixed in with some Machu Picchu. Is there any charachteristics that are readily distinguishable between Jalapa and the Olor. They look very similar to me the ones I am growing. I'll post a pic tomorrow if need be.
Jalapa tends to appear less refined, more like an Orinoco type, and mine had deep vermilion blossoms. The Olor has a flatter leaf, with a less contorted margin, and pink blossoms. [Of course, the blossom color is really fickle.] I'd have to go back through all my photos to check differences in the auricles. I also recall that whereas Olor tips just look like smaller, darker leaf, the Jalapa tips were distorted and and gnarly in appearance.
Bob
Bob
Jalapalooza
These are photos of my Jalapa from 2012 and 2013:
Bob
These are photos of my Jalapa from 2012 and 2013:
Bob
Blue Skies Smilin' at Me
Here is another view of my garden and its tobaccitos.
Most of the varieties are at about the same stage as this bed of PA Red.
Bob
Here is another view of my garden and its tobaccitos.
Most of the varieties are at about the same stage as this bed of PA Red.
Bob
BarG
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When I compare the leaves from the Olor and Jalapa I can see very little difference. I have this plant going with the olor though. Thanks.
BarG
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Your headed for a great grow it looks like.
We're all headed for a great grow, until Mother Nature notices.
Bob
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Space Invaders
While weeding and hunting down small suckers this morning, I wondered why I had planted my FL Sumatra so close to the margin of the grass. I checked some landmarks, and concluded that the lawn had cheated, and had substantially invaded that narrow bed.
Hoeing was not an option, since much of the invading force consisted of Creeping Charlie. If you hack it into 100 pieces, you get 100 vibrant, new Creeping Charlies. So, I sat cross-legged at the edge of the bed, and began pulling up a mix of grass seedlings and Creeping Charlie runners, attempting to regain what had been lost to the invaders (underground radicals!) in a mere month of inattention.
Here, I've turned back the clock on all but a tiny section.
You can judge how much of the bed was lost to the creepy invaders.
A close-up of Creeping Charlie surface runners.
In addition to surface runners that can soak up a single rainfall, and then extend 6" overnight, Creeping Charlie also likes to put down deep runners that cruise ~1" beneath the soil surface. It's particularly fond of invading tilled soil in that manner.
It was about a 40 minute project to clear that one bed margin. Although the same thing happens to all of my beds, the others have a better ratio of surface area to perimeter, so it's not as much of an issue during the growing season.
I do love having grass to stand on while maintaining my tobacco. But there's no free lunch. The margins have to be maintained, and I have to use a push mower with a bag, to mow between all the beds, in order to avoid throwing clippings all over the tobacco leaf. Raised beds would minimize the perimeter invasion, but would then require going around each raised bed with a weed eater each time I mow.
Bob
While weeding and hunting down small suckers this morning, I wondered why I had planted my FL Sumatra so close to the margin of the grass. I checked some landmarks, and concluded that the lawn had cheated, and had substantially invaded that narrow bed.
Hoeing was not an option, since much of the invading force consisted of Creeping Charlie. If you hack it into 100 pieces, you get 100 vibrant, new Creeping Charlies. So, I sat cross-legged at the edge of the bed, and began pulling up a mix of grass seedlings and Creeping Charlie runners, attempting to regain what had been lost to the invaders (underground radicals!) in a mere month of inattention.
Here, I've turned back the clock on all but a tiny section.
You can judge how much of the bed was lost to the creepy invaders.
A close-up of Creeping Charlie surface runners.
In addition to surface runners that can soak up a single rainfall, and then extend 6" overnight, Creeping Charlie also likes to put down deep runners that cruise ~1" beneath the soil surface. It's particularly fond of invading tilled soil in that manner.
It was about a 40 minute project to clear that one bed margin. Although the same thing happens to all of my beds, the others have a better ratio of surface area to perimeter, so it's not as much of an issue during the growing season.
I do love having grass to stand on while maintaining my tobacco. But there's no free lunch. The margins have to be maintained, and I have to use a push mower with a bag, to mow between all the beds, in order to avoid throwing clippings all over the tobacco leaf. Raised beds would minimize the perimeter invasion, but would then require going around each raised bed with a weed eater each time I mow.
Bob
cigarchris
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Not trying to hijack your log here, just haven't had time this year to do my own. When I built the raised beds for my first grow last year, I decided that cutting grass between them would be rather annoying, so since I had the whole back yard dug up anyway to do a French drain, instead of planting grass, I did these pine bark nuggets. They were about $4 for a 3 cu.ft. bag, and I put down thirty bags last year and another thirty this year. After a couple rains and walking around them a bunch, they pack down into a nice bed. The problem though I've noticed, is they make a nice little playground/obstacle course for slugs and snails. I figured the bark nuggets would hinder them getting to the edges of the beds, but apparently not. I was also considering pea gravel, but the amount I estimated was several tons to do this area 3" deep, and the thought of wheel barrowing it up into my back yard was too much.
Slugs love cool, shady, horizontal surfaces for hiding during the day.
Bob
Bob
Cyprus Oriental. Heaven knows what this really is. The leaves are petiolate, resembling Samsun or Bafra.
It looks healthy and interesting. I expect these will reach 6'.
Bob
It looks healthy and interesting. I expect these will reach 6'.
Bob
Do you plan a Latakia process for these? Or do you plan a point by point visual comparison between the dried leaf and WLT's Latakia leaf?
Knucks,
I'll probably drag out my trash can fire-curing chamber, stack it on the Brinkman smoker, and give it a go with some pine smoke for a month or two. Maybe creosote is what is missing when I use fruit wood or hardwoods.
The comparison with WLT Latakia will have to wait until I have the energy to add another project. Now, the ones pictured above are just said to be "Oriental." The "Latakia" variety is in a different bed.
Bob
I'll probably drag out my trash can fire-curing chamber, stack it on the Brinkman smoker, and give it a go with some pine smoke for a month or two. Maybe creosote is what is missing when I use fruit wood or hardwoods.
The comparison with WLT Latakia will have to wait until I have the energy to add another project. Now, the ones pictured above are just said to be "Oriental." The "Latakia" variety is in a different bed.
Bob
grgfinney
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Bob I have a question about prilep I know you grew it last year, did you find it top heavy? I had to stake some already. They are planted 12in on center but only get afternoon sun this probly has something to do with it.since you are a master I would like your opinion please
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