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4-3-13:
It is nite.............
AND
It is raining cats and dawgs......
I don't have the heart to go outside and see how plants are fairing................
So I will crawl into bed and see what tommorow brings.... Got good news tho about not working tommorow so I will be able to launch new boat and test drive it IF there is not a lotta rescue work to be done on my lil crop start
 

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4-3-13: UPDATE

They made it thru the nite and also the palm never shed anything on them.. That should be my next priority. to add fishnet over head to stop the leaves from taking out 2-3 plants at a time.............

Now some of my mixs contain not completely composted "forest products" which means bark and wood chips. They make the soil last longer and hold more water but can rob nitrogen....

So can you please help me by looking at these plants and telling me if I am seeing nitrogen defeceincy or just new growth?

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the small cups were almost bone dry before giving them a lil drink from bottom last night..... The others are damp but not wet. hard leaves finally and no wilt or stem weakness... Just yellow top young leaves on a few.
The white containers are 5 gallon buckets and 7 week old plants.
 

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So it's happening in the cups and buckets? Is the same soil and fertilizer used for all the plants? Everything is equal or is it happening in spite of some differences in soil, fertilizer, etc?
 

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Sorry for delayed responce..... Werked 30 hours straight.

It is happening to all them.... I had a flat go yellow tinted and they responded to fertilizer.

I also think I messed up formula for soil mixs. I added the "handful epsom salts" but upon re reading other posts. It seems that is needed in each bucket.....

I added a lil miracle grow to one gutter and some iropn supplement for yards to the other and watered in litely from top.
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Hope to see some improvement and will get humidity probe this week also
 

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Looks good! Mine are going in the ground on Saturday, I'm going to let the ground dry out one more day.
 

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Found a few larva on the plants today..... [not my pic]

Also added epsom salts to one row and some of the microbe stuff. Will withhold water for a few days also once all the additives have been added .

Yellowing seems to be getting worse on a limited few plants and I am hoping to narrow it down to one potting mix if it is a fertilizer issue since a few mixs may have to much compost and manure..

NOTE: None of the plants have recieved full strength application of miraclegro and most of the nutrients would have came from new potting mix. Have had seedlings on 1/4 strength all their lives.

The little cups seem to doing better since they dryed out as well leading me to think over watering as well. Fertilized them in trough a little today and added microbes too.

NOTE to myself: Add drains and float valve to gutters . Need to be able to drain when needed. Use even a cork for plug for economy
 

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History

The beetle was discovered in 1824 by Thomas Say from specimens collected in the Rocky Mountains on buffalo-bur, Solanum rostratum. The origin of the beetle is somewhat unclear, but it seems that Colorado and Mexico are a part of its native distribution in southwestern North America.[SUP][2][/SUP] In about 1840, the species adopted the cultivated potato into its host range and it rapidly became a most destructive pest of potato crops. The large scale use of insecticides in agricultural crops effectively controlled the pest until it became resistant to DDT in the 1950s. Other pesticides have since been used but the insect has, over time, developed resistance to them all.[SUP][3][/SUP]
Life cycle


Colorado potato beetle larvae


Colorado potato beetle females are very prolific; they can lay as many as 800 eggs. The eggs are yellow to orange, and are about 1.5 mm long. They are usually deposited in batches of about 30 on the underside of host leaves. Development of all life stages depends on temperature. After 4–15 days, the eggs hatch into reddish-brown larvae with humped backs and two rows of dark brown spots on either side. They feed on the leaves. Larvae progress through four distinct growth stages (instars). First instars are about 1.5 mm long; the fourth is about 8 millimetres (0.31 in) long. The larvae in the accompanying picture are third instars. The first through third instars each last about 2–3 days; the fourth, 4–7 days. Upon reaching full size, each fourth instar spends an additional several days as a non-feeding prepupa, which can be recognized by its inactivity and lighter coloration. The prepupae drop to the soil and burrow to a depth of several inches, then pupate. Depending on temperature, light-regime and host quality, the adults may emerge in a few weeks to continue the life cycle, or enter diapause and delay emergence until spring. They then return to their host plant to mate and feed. In some locations, three or more generations may occur each growing season.

As a crop pest

Colorado beetles are a serious pest of potatoes. They may also cause significant damage to tomatoes and eggplants. Both adults and larvae feed on foliage and may skeletonize the crop. Insecticides are currently the main method of beetle control on commercial farms. However, many chemicals are often unsuccessful when used against this pest because of the beetle's ability to rapidly develop insecticide resistance. The Colorado potato beetle has developed resistance to all major insecticide classes, although not every population is resistant to every chemical.[SUP][4][/SUP] In the United Kingdom, where the Colorado beetle is a rare visitor on imported farm produce, it is a notifiable pest: any found must be reported to DEFRA.
High fecundity usually allows Colorado potato beetle populations to withstand natural enemy pressure. Still, in the absence of insecticides natural enemies can sometimes reach densities capable of reducing Colorado potato beetle numbers below economically damaging levels. A ground beetle, Lebia grandis is a predator of the eggs and larvae and its larvae are parasitoids of the Colorado beetle's pupae. Beauveria bassiana (Hyphomycetes) is a pathogenic fungus that infects a wide range of insect species, including the Colorado potato beetle. It is probably the most widely used natural enemy of the Colorado potato beetle, with readily available commercial formulations that can be applied using a regular pesticide sprayer.
[h=4]Resistance Management[/h] Insecticides in the same chemical class usually have the same mode of action, the same method of killing the insect. Resistance develops more rapidly to an insecticide when that insecticide is used repeatedly as the only control measure. Repeated use of one class kills susceptible beetles, leaving those that are resistant. Overuse of one insecticide may favor the development of resistance to other insecticides in the same chemical class. Consequently, to delay or prevent resistance it is important to avoid repeated usage of one particular insecticide by rotating the insecticides used.

NOTE: Not sure that BT is good for tobacco plant????????


Bacillius thuringiensis var tenebrionis (Bt) is effective against small larvae (less than 1/4 inch) and should be applied at egg hatch or when larvae are first seen. A premature treatment may lose much of its effectiveness before the eggs hatch. Larger larvae are more difficult to control with Bt. Azatin, an extract of the neem seed, prevents the larvae from developing normally.
 

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The information about the potatoe beatle was copyed from wikipedia and may or may not be really accurate.
The other links about the BT and the fungus are biological weapons against soft bodies predators of tobacco leaf and one reference mentioned using them on cinch bugs too...
There is a way to grow these and boost native populations and I will make a post about home culture of these organics later...
 

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Last year I used BT from the commercial brand Thuricide. I also used Spinosad which is different but also a bacterial insecticide. Both don't harm beneficial insects and are considered organic.
 

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The Colorado beetle has a somewhat legendary status here in the UK! I've never seen one - but if I did, I know what it looks like and would probably call 999 to get the police involved!

My dad told me time after time how if I ever saw one of these things in my life I needed to contact the authorities because if I didn't all the potatoes in the UK would be under threat. Thinking about it now - there is no way this pest can be as serious as all that - but my memories of him jabbing his finger at a picture in a book commanding me to learn what they look like has left me breaking out in to a sweat even reading this thread!
 

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4-6-13:

Sheesh.....................

Sheila found another pest this morning. Commonly called salt marsh caterpillar.

http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/veg/leaf/saltmarsh_caterpillar.htm

I have seen these moving in large packs before here in south Texas and even caught one for the chickens the other day but did not know that it would travel to my plants....... I mean he had to cross concrete . then climb up a 2x4 brace then along the 2 x 4 frames and then up solo cup to feast!
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He is a lot blacker in real life with orange spots down his fat lil sides.

Here is his parents.
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The parents look alot like our cabbage butterflies (but they're moths??)we get here but I dont think the caterpillars look like those,r they poisonous??
 
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