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The new lemon has lots of Chlorophyll on it. First priming does as well. Newbies are not used to seeing leaf as growers are. All we are used to is shredded tobacco. I am on my 4th year ordering leaf. Taste is all based on the type of seed soil and growing conditions. Carolina ribbon is just a blending tobacco. I have bought it when able to get pipe tobacco to Canada.
 

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Carolina ribbon is just a blending tobacco. I have bought it when able to get pipe tobacco to Canada.
As a matter of tradition, I give family members a quart jar of Wild Rice every Christmas. There are several different types and grades of Wild Rice on the market. Cultivated, usually grown in California and Minnesota. "Wild" (ironically), which mainly grows in upper Minnesota and southern Southern Ontario but peppered throughout Manitoba and Saskatchewan, "Wood parched", "hand winnowed", etc. etc.

Yesterday while wild rice shopping, I found some "All Natural Ojibwa wild rice" from a company located in Massachusetts. Not only did I not know the Ojibwa tribe lived in Massachusetts, but I certainly didn't know they grew wild rice there.

Branding is a wonderful thing, often misleading, but wonderful none the less.

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Virginia ie Canadian is the same as strawberry's ours are so much sweeter than the California kind. They are still strawberries each region produces quality fruit but tastes are different its all according to what you are used too. I have smoked some of the best Virginia in the world and thanks to you and Big continue to do so.
 

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"All Natural Ojibwa wild rice" from a company located in Massachusetts.
Sounds like the "all natural Cuban Corojo 99 tobacco" I grow in my yard. (I bought my beautiful wood and hide, Ojibwa snowshoes in northern Minnesota--almost in Canada, but not Massachusetts. But they could have been made in Shanghai, from Jichimu wood and human skin. It's hard to know for sure.)

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Re: green mold spots on tobacco leaves

I have had that or something similar in bags of izmir and one of the other orientals.
 

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It in reference probably just chlorophyll. Mold is usually white and fuzzy generally speaking.
 

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I just opened a bag of that stuff now and its tasty just finishing a pound of it. Its all good and it was this year that it aged in the bags and the green has changed colour.
 

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I've seen the green. It's chlorophyll as Burge had said.
Some leaves you can flatten-out and see the line from the racks.
 

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It disappears after it ages a bit. The taste is better after aging.
 

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Hi,
I have a pound of bright leaf and since it’s my first time I’m a bit paranoid about mold so i hope to get some input on the attached pics to determine weather this is mold or not.

And what are the best way to decide in general if it’s mold or not ?

I actually smoked a couple of cigs before thinking of mold, so i was wondering is harmful ? What could happen ?
 

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Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum.

It's not possible to say for certain that the leaf is molded, based on the photos. (On a few, I don't see your area of interest.) From the pattern of the color, I would assume that it is mold. If it smells like mold, then it is mold. You can obtain a magnifying glass, and look for fluffy, fine filaments of mold hyphae.

If that were my tobacco, I would simply tear away the affected areas, and smoke the rest. Some molds release a toxin, but that toxin (aflatoxin) is destroyed during the burning of the leaf. For cigarette use, that should not present a problem. I would avoid using such leaf for smokeless tobacco products, like snuff, snus or chew.

Bob
 

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It is not mold refer to my post above just started smoking some of that stuff from the original thread. It is just chlorophyll and over time it disappears. Sometimes there is a little on the stems and that is normal for all tobacco. I make a thread a while ago and what to expect for people new to whole leaf. Its tought to get the whole leaf yellow when flue curing and the little green spots are completely normal.
 

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Looked closer that is not mold. Mold is hairy. When I mentioned the spots fill in that the green has disappeared that is what they spots kind of look like. Whote spots are normal on Virginia its sugar in the leaf.
 

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Bob I don't think that is mold I just rip that part off then smoke the leaf. That could be where they leaf was kiln too hot it gets hat dark earthy colour. When its there its always on the top part of the leaf. I must stress that all leaves are not cosmetically perfect. There are the odd white spots some have little green mixed in and they appear a lot lighter.
 

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two more pics
The pic on those are not mold there can be holes in the tobacco that is not caused by mold. Holes most develop naturally in the leaves from being pressed together. Aging leaves in the bag especially the stuff from 3 years ago go all white or a lighter brown. They almost dissolve and create a little hole. Virginia is acidic and it makes sense.. I have checked to see if they are hairy and they aren't. The competition the leaves one order were all cosmetically perfect on the Canadian Virginia. They tasted well commercial and as discussed sprayed or something. WLT isn't commercial tobacco. It is not chemically treated. It is not your average tobacco its exceptional tobacco connoisseur tobacco and some of the best in the world. Just rip off some of the unappealing tobacco. All orders for me anyhow are like that. For each pound I have to discard a piece which might be 2 cigarettes worth of tobacco. Its what you get for truly unprocessed leaf. I am a tobacco snob and have had before this the higher end tobaccos and WLT is the higher end of tobaccos.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum.

It's not possible to say for certain that the leaf is molded, based on the photos. (On a few, I don't see your area of interest.) From the pattern of the color, I would assume that it is mold. If it smells like mold, then it is mold. You can obtain a magnifying glass, and look for fluffy, fine filaments of mold hyphae.

If that were my tobacco, I would simply tear away the affected areas, and smoke the rest. Some molds release a toxin, but that toxin (aflatoxin) is destroyed during the burning of the leaf. For cigarette use, that should not present a problem. I would avoid using such leaf for smokeless tobacco products, like snuff, snus or chew.

Bob
About the area of intrest, some pictures contain a lot of discoloration and colors that i dont know if they are normal, so i was hoping it would be all examined.

And what are the pictures that made you say it is mold ?

Also, is it safe to touch it with bare hands ? And do i have to clean the place i put the leaves on ?

And does the burning eliminate all toxins ?

also, I don’t know what mold smells like, when i see it on bread I throw the whole plastic bag , but i rarely see it.

Sorry if I’m asking a lot of questions, but I dont want to smoke it until im sure im safe.
 

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The pic on those are not mold there can be holes in the tobacco that is not caused by mold. Holes most develop naturally in the leaves from being pressed together. Aging leaves in the bag especially the stuff from 3 years ago go all white or a lighter brown. They almost dissolve and create a little hole. Virginia is acidic and it makes sense.. I have checked to see if they are hairy and they aren't. The competition the leaves one order were all cosmetically perfect on the Canadian Virginia. They tasted well commercial and as discussed sprayed or something. WLT isn't commercial tobacco. It is not chemically treated. It is not your average tobacco its exceptional tobacco connoisseur tobacco and some of the best in the world. Just rip off some of the unappealing tobacco. All orders for me anyhow are like that. For each pound I have to discard a piece which might be 2 cigarettes worth of tobacco. Its what you get for truly unprocessed leaf. I am a tobacco snob and have had before this the higher end tobaccos and WLT is the higher end of tobaccos.
Are the black dots also normal?

I accept it won’t be perfect, it’s just i dont know how mold looks like and i want to be safe before smoking it.

If you don’t mind me asking, how you’re so sure that it’s not mold? Because Bob says it is mold, and because of this confusion i think it still not safe to smoke it until i find some guaranteed way to decide.

Thanks both of you are helping me to clarify things.
 
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