Indoor grow tent! Swedish snus variety Tofta!

[loui loui]

Maybe Juniper Haircap Moss.

Bob

It can be!

There exist over one thousand different mosses in Sweden and many look very similar so it is quite a task to identify them.
Maybe I should contact some kind of museum that knows a lot about plants.
Moss is an amazing kind of plant, it is fantastic that it can grow on stone.

 

[Bottenslam]

My guess would be Polytrichum commune

 

[loui loui]

This is how the cows are living here, they are transported between the pastures so they have plenty of grass to eat. I have seen them scratching the head against the trees, they are very powerful animals and super kind.
The young ones often goes all the way to the fence so I can scratch their head while the mother is keeping an eye at me. One young one was licking my arm, it felt like sandpaper and the toungue was the size of my arm!

I try to avoid the pastures they occupy but sometimes I am trespassing their territory to make a shortcut, they are super friendly and they are so respectful animals.

Look at this happy cow!

 

[Alpine]

They are very similar to Highland Cattle, there are a few where I live too.

pier

 

[loui loui]

They are very similar to Highland Cattle, there are a few where I live too.

pier

Yes, maybe they are related?
I don't know if the Higland cattle come from Scandinavia but many british people are ancestors of vikings so maybe the cows are too?
I know the vikings did tie the legs of animals and transport them in their open boats.

Anyway this is the most eastern viking homeland in Scandinavia, right through the middle of the fields I walk there is a stream that was wider and deeper in the viking age and it was a very important route back then and the fields was important farming fields.

There are also pagan runestones scattered around the fields here. Here is one made by a stone carver named Fot, it means foot. It depicts some stories from viking mythology.



It is very nice place with great farming land here, I plan to find a spot and guerilla grow some tobacco this summer.

The cows are very cold tolerant and like to stay in the shade of a tree during summer. They are waving their tail to scare away the flies.

 

[Bottenslam]

Yes, maybe they are related?
I don't know if the Higland cattle come from Scandinavia but many british people are ancestors of vikings so maybe the cows are too?

Highland cattle are quite popular here in Finland atleast, stock is imported from Britain.
Id say the traditionall Finnish cows are quite "normal" in apperance tho. Im no cow expert tho.
I must contest Sweden being The most Eastern viking Homeland tho, as earliest proof of Swedish speaking in Finland coincides with The Viking age haha.

 

[Alpine]

Highland cattle - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Very similar indeed.

pier

 

[loui loui]

Highland cattle are quite popular here in Finland atleast, stock is imported from Britain.
Id say the traditionall Finnish cows are quite "normal" in apperance tho. Im no cow expert tho.
I must contest Sweden being The most Eastern viking Homeland tho, as earliest proof of Swedish speaking in Finland coincides with The Viking age haha.

Yes I think here around Stockholm was the epicentre of the eastern vikings. Vikings from here travelled mostly east and controlled the eastern traderouts through streams in eastern europe. Russia is even named after the Rus vikings that originated from Roslagen, the area around Stockholm.

This area is also the place with the most density of rune stones, it is unknown why so many rune stones are in this area.

 

[deluxestogie]

There are also pagan runestones scattered around the fields here. Here is one made by a stone carver named Fot

"Andvéttr and Gerðarr had these runes carved in memory of Sveinn, their father; and Ketilvé in memory of her husbandman."

Actually, there is a Christian cross in the upper section.

Uppland Runic Inscription 80 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bob

 

[loui loui]

"Andvéttr and Gerðarr had these runes carved in memory of Sveinn, their father; and Ketilvé in memory of her husbandman."

Actually, there is a Christian cross in the upper section.

Uppland Runic Inscription 80 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bob

OK Deluxestogie, you are a true seeker and finder I see!
I like it.
I did not know the stone had an english page on wikipedia.

Many of these stones have a sign from some kind of museum or something with a translation of the text and it is often said there is a christian cross on the stones but I have looked closely and I have yet not seen a cross.
I guess there is up to the viewer to see a christian cross or something else so OK if the museum sees it but I don't. What I clearly see is the Jörmungandr aka the serpent of Midgård and it's many legs, often with it's tail in it's jaw. Since such a beast is unknown in christian mythology but very known in norse mythology I conclude that any interpretation of the carvings as christian carvings is tainted by "you see what you want to see". So what can the four items symbolize if it is not a christian cross?
Well maybe the four dwarf-gods Norðri, Suðri, Austri and Vestri aka North, South, East and West in english?
Maybe, or it is just my interpretation, who knows but my opinion is that beauty is in the beholder of the eye and that we, even the museum, are entitled to our interpretation of art, even 900 year old stone carvings clearly depicting the protector of the human habitat, the so called serpent of Midgård with it's many legs and it's tail in it's jaw.

 

[deluxestogie]

Both the carver, Fot, and the advent of Christianity in Sweden occupy the 11th century AD. In most cultures, new religions are usually overlain upon traditional mythology. Since the runestones are runic renditions of an Indo-European language (derived from the so-called "Northern Germanic"), they have been extensively studied. Whether or not the conclusions of the comparative linguists are indeed valid is not always easy to determine.

Bob

 

[loui loui]

Both the carver, Fot, and the advent of Christianity in Sweden occupy the 11th century AD. In most cultures, new religions are usually overlain upon traditional mythology. Since the runestones are runic renditions of an Indo-European language (derived from the so-called "Northern Germanic"), they have been extensively studied. Whether or not the conclusions of the comparative linguists are indeed valid is not always easy to determine.

Bob

It may be that there are signs of christianity like churches from the 11th century but the christians wanted Jesus to be attractive and in the viking age the most attractive was to be a brave warrior so quess what, the christians told that Jesus was a very brave warrior god.
With such advertisement Jesus surely became a respected god among other gods among the northmen but the old gods did not disappear and surely the northmen continued to wage war long after the first church was built.

In fact the warrior mentality did thrive together with the christian mythology, many wars was fought in the name of god and the king after the northmen became christians. Even today warships and military equipment is named after characters in norse mythology.

Here is a list of Swedish wars after the the first church was built in Sweden.

Lista över svenska krig – Wikipedia

sv.m.wikipedia.org

Long periods of peace have been rare and to make matters worse Denmark is not included on the list except for the many wars fought between Denmark and Sweden.

 

[loui loui]

This is the backside of a stone not far away from the other stone, in the old viking farming fields I have been talking about.


It is written on the sign also on this stone that this sign is a cross.

When I look at this sign I don't see a cross.
Keep in mind that it was very skilled artists that made these stone carvings, if they wanted to depict a cross they could easily have made a clear cross.

I don't see a cross because a cross is made by two lines that crosses eachother and the horisontal line and the vertical line do not cross, in fact there are not one horisontal line and one vertical line, there are two horisontal lines and two vertical lines and they don't cross eachother, they are four separate symbols in my eyes.

So I see a symbol resembling the four "väderstreck" , literally "weather-lines" in swedish, cardinal points in english.

By co-incidence the four "weather-lines" also represent the four dwarf gods in norse mythology. Their english name is North, South, West and East.

What do you see?
The four weather-lines, one cross or something else?

 

[loui loui]

Now i have a lot of Tofta seeds to give to friends and sow myself. Success!
I will put some in the wallet and give seeds to growers I meet, very nice.

 

[johnny108]

Now i have a lot of Tofta seeds to give to friends and sow myself. Success!
I will put some in the wallet and give seeds to growers I meet, very nice.
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How far south do you go for coffee?
Hannover, Germany?
I have some Geudertheimer seeds in my wallet to hand you. It’s a German strain that is supposed to be robust and adapted to Northern European climates.

 

[loui loui]

How far south do you go for coffee?
Hannover, Germany?
I have some Geudertheimer seeds in my wallet to hand you. It’s a German strain that is supposed to be robust and adapted to Northern European climates.

Yes, My morning routine is the following:
I wake up in Sweden, bicycle to Norway, swim to Denmark and walk to Germany. In Germany I drink my morning coffee before I surf my way home again.

Geudertheimer you say, is it strong tobacco?

 

[deluxestogie]

Tabaksamen Badischer Geudertheimer

Für Zigaretten- und Pfeifenfeinschnitt sowie für Zigarren: diese dunkle Sorte hat einen mittleren Nikotingehalt, ist würzig, aber relativ mild, sehr ertragreich und widerstandsfähig.

www.tabakanbau.de

 

[Alpine]

If I recall correctly, Badischer Geudertheimer is cigar leaf strain developed in Germany.

pier

Edit: as always, Bob has been way faster than me!

 

[deluxestogie]

Bob has been way faster than me!

That is because I follow @loui loui's morning exercise routine, though mapped onto a different geography.

Bob

EDIT: Seriously, I would not be at all surprised if Tofta is actually Badischer Geudertheimer.

 

[johnny108]

Yes, My morning routine is the following:
I wake up in Sweden, bicycle to Norway, swim to Denmark and walk to Germany. In Germany I drink my morning coffee before I surf my way home again.

Geudertheimer you say, is it strong tobacco?

It is the variety that gave Roth-Händle cigarettes their strong reputation.
I might run across you on your return trip- my after coffee swim to Tenerife starts/ends in Hamburg…