Lefty second try
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I hope my plants can learn to swim. It is raining almost every day here, except on weekend. The soil doesn't have enough time to dry and I think my gold dollar variety doesn't make it. My other bed are sandy so it doesn't have this problem. Wish I had plant it there first.
ChinaVoodoo
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Is it possible to dig a trench that will drain the water away?
I am planning to. But too busy with stuff right now. I will make trench as soon as I have time.
greenmonster714
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Wow. That is a bit of water. Your correct. They're not gonna like that. Not many plant do unless they grow in a swamp. Maybe make some raised rows next year if ya plant in the same spot. Makes shedding off water a bit more manageable and the plant won't be underwater if it rains heavy. This growing hobby is always throwing problems at us...damnit. I hope ya can get them out of there soon. They can drown. I'd even go as far as digging them up and putting them in a pot till the water is fixed. Best of luck to ya Lefty.
It appears to me that the removal of rubble from the garden bed resulted in a depression that holds water. You have two or three days to drain it, before the roots begin to drown.
Bob
Bob
Update!
Finally have some time to update my grow blog. I have been busy these several weeks with work and helping my wife starting up her online store on facebook. There not much to update. Pic first.
These are my new started seed. Samsun 85 (I started this seed before I get seeds from Jitterbugdude. If I wait a bit later I might have new oriental variety this year.), frog eye orinoco, besuki (Tutu's seed), havana 501, Corojo (from Tutu. I believe he receive this seed from deluxestogie). The biggest seedling are besuki, I am amazed at their growing speed.
These are my back up plant. Samsun backup are bigger than main seedlings so I think if they don't catch up, I will plant the backup seedlings.
My sucker grow. I am hoping these sucker will grow faster as they already have established root. But it seems that they also take some time to grow.
My current tobacco bed. Already dry for a week now. The flooding kill only 3 plants' However, I think it messes up with the grow of other plant. It is very slow growing now.
first pic is gold dollar. These plant affected the most with the flood and doesn't want to grow any bigger. The second pic is TN90. TN90 seems to be the most hardy plant of all. little affected by flood, drought, even continue to grow big in small pot. seems that I have found my favorite to grow. Harrow velvet is also somewhat sturdy plant, but not as hardy as TN90. It is on the same level as my Big Gem plant. Samsun 85 is another one that is hardy, but not as consistent as Big Gem. I will seek another hardy oriental and thanks to JBD, i have some to experiment with.
I will put another plant to replace the one that died in the flood.
I transfer my remaining virginia gold plant to my other prepared bed last week. This bed were better because it is sandy, meaning it wont hold water for long and around half feet deep is black loamy soil. I also prepared these bed by putting some fresh cow manure last two month. I have high hope for these beds. Just waiting for my current seedling to be big enough to transfer to the garden.
That's all folk
Finally have some time to update my grow blog. I have been busy these several weeks with work and helping my wife starting up her online store on facebook. There not much to update. Pic first.
These are my new started seed. Samsun 85 (I started this seed before I get seeds from Jitterbugdude. If I wait a bit later I might have new oriental variety this year.), frog eye orinoco, besuki (Tutu's seed), havana 501, Corojo (from Tutu. I believe he receive this seed from deluxestogie). The biggest seedling are besuki, I am amazed at their growing speed.
These are my back up plant. Samsun backup are bigger than main seedlings so I think if they don't catch up, I will plant the backup seedlings.
My sucker grow. I am hoping these sucker will grow faster as they already have established root. But it seems that they also take some time to grow.
My current tobacco bed. Already dry for a week now. The flooding kill only 3 plants' However, I think it messes up with the grow of other plant. It is very slow growing now.
first pic is gold dollar. These plant affected the most with the flood and doesn't want to grow any bigger. The second pic is TN90. TN90 seems to be the most hardy plant of all. little affected by flood, drought, even continue to grow big in small pot. seems that I have found my favorite to grow. Harrow velvet is also somewhat sturdy plant, but not as hardy as TN90. It is on the same level as my Big Gem plant. Samsun 85 is another one that is hardy, but not as consistent as Big Gem. I will seek another hardy oriental and thanks to JBD, i have some to experiment with.
I will put another plant to replace the one that died in the flood.
I transfer my remaining virginia gold plant to my other prepared bed last week. This bed were better because it is sandy, meaning it wont hold water for long and around half feet deep is black loamy soil. I also prepared these bed by putting some fresh cow manure last two month. I have high hope for these beds. Just waiting for my current seedling to be big enough to transfer to the garden.
That's all folk
Hello LeftyNick, it's good to have an update on your growing plants 
You seem to have a hard weather (too much rain, than too much sun...), I wish you the best with you crop !
It's funny to see that your Besuki are your fastest strain whereas they are the slowest in my place they seem to love your part of the world
You seem to have a hard weather (too much rain, than too much sun...), I wish you the best with you crop !
It's funny to see that your Besuki are your fastest strain whereas they are the slowest in my place
they seem to love your part of the world Hello LeftyNick, it's good to have an update on your growing plants
You seem to have a hard weather (too much rain, than too much sun...), I wish you the best with you crop !
It's funny to see that your Besuki are your fastest strain whereas they are the slowest in my place
our climate indeed is hot and humid all year round. It can be raining all morning and really hot on the afternoon. That is why it is hard when I started seedlings using natural sun. When it is raining in the morning I sometimes does not water the seedling, but in the afternoon, when I come home from work, the seedling dry out. So now, I water them everyday even when it is raining in the morning.
I think besuki would be the best to grow here. Indonesian and Malaysian weather are relatively the same. (We are neighbour after all). But I am curious as for the strain from Cuba such as Havana and Corojo are not showing the same growth. Maybe there are some difference although we have same tropical climate.
My early harvest. From left Little Dutch Ligero, Samsun 85, Little Dutch seco, Harrow Velvet and Big Gem. This is the batch for trial grow on my backyard garden. 3 weeks in the car kiln. The smell was very tasty keep me salivating when I re-stack them. The Harrow Velvet smell like cheap cigar that I can find in 7 Eleven. Last time it smelled like plastic so I am afraid because I read somewhere that burley take flavoring and aroma easily than other variety. But it is not the case here. It just not finished fermenting yet. I am really fond of this variety because it is easy and fast to air cure. But the flavor is slightly less than other variety. I am hoping TN90 will give me more flavor.
I adjusted the method of my car fermenting by putting the leaves in cardboard box and put it on my dashboard, covered each layer with plastic. This way I get more heat and it retain heat for longer period. Then I re-stack them every 2 days. Had some minor mould issues but I just wipe them off.
I was excited and shred one leaf from each and smoke them. It was good, very smooth, very flavorful and sweet. Even though I air cure my Big Gem it still retain sweetness in the smoke.
I like the color of the Little Dutch.
Bob
Bob
greenmonster714
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Great start on your garden Lefty. Those cured leaves look great. Good to hear they are tasty. I will be air curing a lot. I agree with Bob. That little dutch looks awesome.
I smoked some more of my shredded leaves after air drying it. It has burn issues. Looks like I need to kiln it a little longer.
The Little Dutch color changed drastically with its position on stalk. I only seperate them into 3 categories, mud leaves, seco and ligero. The ligero is from the top 6 leaves. It become dark brown almost black in color during air cure. I was surprised when it started to change color from green to yellow and immediately to dark brown. However, there are no suitable leaves for wrapper because a lot of holes and discoloration. Maybe I should try Harrow Velvet as wrapper. It is very thin and stretchy.
The Little Dutch color changed drastically with its position on stalk. I only seperate them into 3 categories, mud leaves, seco and ligero. The ligero is from the top 6 leaves. It become dark brown almost black in color during air cure. I was surprised when it started to change color from green to yellow and immediately to dark brown. However, there are no suitable leaves for wrapper because a lot of holes and discoloration. Maybe I should try Harrow Velvet as wrapper. It is very thin and stretchy.
BarG
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I am Smoking big gem now from chickens seeds . a grow 4-5 years ago. I will grow again next year.
ChinaVoodoo
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I almost am convinced that the kilning process isn't finished in the leaf when you take it out. Like it needs to rest a month afterwards to fully realize what happened in the kiln.
+1 on Harrow Velvet wrapper.
BarG
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yeah sentinent tobacco, a mind of its own.
Is it flue cured or air cured? I am curious because my Big Gem turn from green to fully lemon yellow in few days before go to golden/brown color. If I had a flue chamber it would be lemon Virginia right now.
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