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Actually this is an experiment, because I am searching for simple way to start my seedling. I was watching a youtube video one day and say wow, that's a good idea. Apparently not in my situation. This will be good idea if I start indoors under grow light. However, just yesterday I found plastic seedling tray from dollar store that I think I will use for my next grow.
I personally haven't tried the seedling tray yet, but they do have high recommendations from so many on FTT. I'm currently using an old 2 liter soda bottle for one of my Little Dutch indoor plants, the rest are outside.
 

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I pick my little dutch seed bud today after noticed some of the pod browning.
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some of the seed pod are being eaten by worm. I dont know how it enter as I bag the flower before even the first flower bud opened. I used cable tie to tie the bag to the plant.
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And now, what should I do about this? I know some of you have tried smoking flowers before. I will save this and try smoking it just for the sake of trying.
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Budworm eggs can be laid on the buds before you bag them. I have adopted the practice of spraying the budhead with permethrin, just before I place the bag on.

For the pods that you have already harvested, inspect each pod (front and back) for a hole. Remove any pods with a hole, before storing the pod head. You may actually find the worm(s) moving from one pod to another. They are well camouflaged, and difficult to spot.

I have saved and smoked the blossoms of a number of varieties of tobacco. Each variety has a different aroma, but all are fairly floral in character. They do burn well, but I don't particularly enjoy the floral aromas. I thought Little Dutch blossoms were the nicest.

Bob
 

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Budworm eggs can be laid on the buds before you bag them. I have adopted the practice of spraying the budhead with permethrin, just before I place the bag on.

For the pods that you have already harvested, inspect each pod (front and back) for a hole. Remove any pods with a hole, before storing the pod head. You may actually find the worm(s) moving from one pod to another. They are well camouflaged, and difficult to spot.

I have saved and smoked the blossoms of a number of varieties of tobacco. Each variety has a different aroma, but all are fairly floral in character. They do burn well, but I don't particularly enjoy the floral aromas. I thought Little Dutch blossoms were the nicest.

Bob

Thank you Bob. I do inspect and discard pod with holes, but didn't notice any worm. Only 5 pod discarded. Will double check it later.

As for the flowers, I think it is a waste to discard it. They do smell wonderful. Will let them dry for few day, and I will try it in cigarette tube. If it is like you say, maybe I will use it in my pipe blend as spice or my own "Lakeland essence"
 

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I live in a rental place too. I just dig a hole in the ground 1 foot deep and loosen the dirt. I find its easier that way. If you decide to move, the grass will grow back in a few weeks.
 

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I live in a rental place too. I just dig a hole in the ground 1 foot deep and loosen the dirt. I find its easier that way. If you decide to move, the grass will grow back in a few weeks.

That's what I do. I know the grass wouldn't take long to grow back. My landlord has approved and encourage my gardening activity. He used to garden there, before losing both his leg to diabetes. So now he is happy someone make continue his effort.
 

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Look like my idea for paper pot is no good. Most of seedling in the pot are either damping off or drying. The paper take a lot of water when I am watering so it is very easy to damping off. When I try to water every 2 days, it dry. I had to start all over for my cigar variety. Thank god, the one in the egg carton are growing healthy, but still, too slow. I expect to transplant them to the ground by now (I started in January, now in April, still struggling to get seedling ready for transplant). The raining season make it difficult to get a proper sun light for my seedling. Many mistakes to learn from. However, the Big Gem and Little dutch has been harvested. I am trying to get second sucker crop from my Little Dutch plant. Sorry no picture. Too embarrassed with my under achievement.
 

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I think it is because my current weather. The moisture level in the air fluctuating really bad. When it is not raining, the pot will dry even when I water them in morning. And it is raining every 2 days here. I give them partial sun to receive morning sun and away from rain. So I am sure it is the pot problem. In comparison, this is my Virginia Gold that I recently restarted.
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This is my attempt to get sucker crop from my little dutch plant
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Nice to see you got a good sucker/soca going. They usually pick a sucker a bit lower on the stalk, then cut the stalk above it. This way you won't get an endless tower of stalks. At least, that's what I saw commercial farmers do in Brazil. But the leafs look tall, even though they are quite narrow. Are they much thicker than the original leafs?
 

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Nice to see you got a good sucker/soca going. They usually pick a sucker a bit lower on the stalk, then cut the stalk above it. This way you won't get an endless tower of stalks. At least, that's what I saw commercial farmers do in Brazil. But the leafs look tall, even though they are quite narrow. Are they much thicker than the original leafs?

I let the sucker up high because of little dutch plant quite short when it flowering. I also want the leaves to get maximum sun because it doesn't receive morning sun, shaded by my house.. The leaves is narrow for little dutch. Now that you mention it,I did noticed it is thicker than original leaves. Will see when they full grown.
 

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Excuse I, it is a method to have better flowers? I have the impression to have missed a walking(step) lol

excusez moi, c'est une méthode pour avoir de meilleures fleurs ? j'ai l'impression d'avoir loupé une marche lol
 

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Excuse I, it is a method to have better flowers? I have the impression to have missed a walking(step) lol

excusez moi, c'est une méthode pour avoir de meilleures fleurs ? j'ai l'impression d'avoir loupé une marche lol

No Gav. This is method to get second crop from your plant. I let the plant grow leaves second time after flowering and harvesting.


Non Gav. C'est une méthode pour obtenir une deuxième récolte de votre plante. Je laisse tomber la plante deux fois après la floraison et la récolte
 

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But! In a way it is. I know that farmers in Brazil select only plants that grow a good sucker crop to flower. Thus they will harvest seed that will yield plants with a good sucker crop as well. And besides that, it can be a good way to harvest extra seed from your plant.
 

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But! In a way it is. I know that farmers in Brazil select only plants that grow a good sucker crop to flower. Thus they will harvest seed that will yield plants with a good sucker crop as well. And besides that, it can be a good way to harvest extra seed from your plant.

Wow, I never think of that. You are saying I can save seed from this sucker to get a good plant with good sucker crop next grow? Definitely will let it to flower then.
 

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Because i am cheap, I always hate to see any wastage. This goes with tobacco growing too. So, when I am trimming my tobacco seedlings, I hate to see all that smaller leaves being discarded. I take each one of the big enough leaves and try to dry them. After a week, I decided to try them. I shred them all using scissor and stuff them in cigarette tube. Enough for one tube. Wow, this leaves give me a good full flavor cigarette even though they are from small leaves. This is trimming from gold dollar, virginia gold, harrow velvet and tn90, just dried, no kilning. It's a good way for me to expect the flavor from the varieties I grow. Definitely worth the time and effort I spent for the last few months. Hopefully they will taste the same when grown to full size.
 

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Or taste even better! And yes, that's the idea. If you have, say, ten plants, and only one of them produces a good sucker crop. Then it'd be ideal to get seed from that plant, rather than the other nine with inferior suckers. Increases your chances for the next!
 

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My tobacco finished fermenting today (1 month). I have some big gem, harrow velvet, little dutch and samsun 85. Naturally, I am eager to test them. Shred some big gem and pack it in tube. It tasted really bland, like sucking on straw. But I can really feel the nicotine. So I try blending 60% big gem, 30% harrow velvet and 20% samsun. Still, the flavor is lacking and very light. Tried the same mixture in pipe, I can taste the flavor, but not quite enough for my palette. So I decided to up the burley and add some little dutch to kick the flavor up.
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twist em up and put them under pressure to force marry the flavor. This blend is 50% big gem, 35% harrow velvet 5% samsun and 10% little dutch.

With my small stock of tobacco, I am thinking to make my crop as pipe tobacco, because the pipe tobacco is quite expensive here. But the problem is, I only tasted a few pipe tobacco in my life and most of them are aromatic. So I never know how other different blend tasted. I want to at least tried blend such as all virginia or perique blend to know which suits me better. One I have now is erinmore latakia supreme which I like very much.
 

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I have the same problem : I feel that my tobacco is a little bit too light in taste...
I found that it becomes better with some age on it : it seems to become more tasty (or it might be my taste buds that become more sensitive ?) but it's still light.

Does anyone have a clue/advice on how to make it more tasty ? I think it's a mater of knowing how to grow healthy plants (or pants ? ;)) with rich leaves, and to wait the right moment for harvesting.
 
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