My Cigars Won't Burn

[GIL]

You won't even find it. It is forbidden in the EU to sell to individuals, because it can be used for less peaceful purposes. Try searching for "E 252".

 

[Alpine]

@koceff try here:

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Saltpeter can be purchased in European countries (both agricultural and technical grade) without any specific permission as far as I know. But I may be wrong.

pier

 

[deluxestogie]

So is chlorine the main problem here? I don't know.

There is a delicate chemical dance between sodium and potassium, as they relate to chloride absorption by tobacco. Chloride absorption is also directly affected by calcium availability and the pH of the soil. Regardless of the chemistry nuances, the routine use of fertilizer with its potassium sourced as chloride (also called muriate of potash and muriatic acid) has been clearly and repeatedly documented to reduce the burn rate and burn propagation in cured tobacco.

Bob

 

[Oldfella]

I am looking for a week now and i can't find pottasium nitrate nowhere.

Try looking for Sodium Nitrate or Nitrate of Soda in your plant shop. It's pretty much the same thing. All it does is promote combustion. Wouldn't want it in my ciggies though. I'm trying to get away from chemicals not adding them. I think it added to the paper used to make the tubes in order to maintain the burn, might be wrong but brought cigarettes don't go out roll your owns do. Much safer.
Oldfella
EDIT: I used it for Bacon curing and Gold recovery from pyrite. Sodium Nitrate and potassium Nitrate gave the same results. In Tobacco don't know. Never tried it.

 

[GIL]

The tap water here is choliranted and I've used that in the seedling stage, later in the kilning process and now for casing the leaves.

That's the mistake. I reread everything carefully, I did the same two years ago, I had the same result. In my opinion, not the soil, not the fertilization, not the fermentation, but the water from the network is to blame. My tobacco will NEVER meet the water from the network.

 

[Oldfella]

That's the mistake. I reread everything carefully, I did the same two years ago, I had the same result. In my opinion, not the soil, not the fertilization, not the fermentation, but the water from the network is to blame. My tobacco will NEVER meet the water from the network.

I agree. I've never been on municipal water supply. I just have rain water, or well water. If a rain water tank could be installed perhaps that would be the best option for burn problems.
Oldfella

 

[koceff]

@Oldfella @GIL is there anything I can do to make it burn now or is it game over?

 

[deluxestogie]

Blending with more combustible leaf will carry along the slow burners. I would certainly not toss the leaf.

Bob

 

[Homegrowngoodnes]

Perhaps try some dip?

 

[Oldfella]

Blending with more combustible leaf will carry along the slow burners. I would certainly not toss the leaf.

Bob

I fully agree with Bob, don't chuck it. If you have well water available use it for all the watering of your Tobacco. If you don’t then I would look at getting a tank and connecting to your roof water drainage pipes. The size of the tank is relative to your climate, how much rain you get during your growing season. Remember that Tobacco doesn't need too much water. Chuck the hard to burn stuff in a paper bag or cardboard box and leave it for a month or three, if you’re short of leaves have a chat with WLT they may be able to help, if you get their leaf you will be able to test your rolling ability and eliminate or blame your technique.
Oldfella

 

[GIL]

This thread aroused my curiosity; how does my cultivated tobacco burn in 2020? This tobacco was almost fireproof. In the early hours of the morning, I climbed into the attic of my house with a lighter in my pocket. Surprise, BURN.
I took a few leaves and rolled a cigarette, it burns pretty well.
I did this experiment to see how hard the burning leaves affect the passage of time. My advice is to store the leaves, and in parallel to grow other plants, you will be able to mix the leaves from the two crops.
I enclose pictures of the burning of the SAME tobacco in 2020 and now.

 

[Van]

This thread aroused my curiosity; how does my cultivated tobacco burn in 2020? This tobacco was almost fireproof. In the early hours of the morning, I climbed into the attic of my house with a lighter in my pocket. Surprise, BURN.
I took a few leaves and rolled a cigarette, it burns pretty well.
I did this experiment to see how hard the burning leaves affect the passage of time. My advice is to store the leaves, and in parallel to grow other plants, you will be able to mix the leaves from the two crops.
I enclose pictures of the burning of the SAME tobacco in 2020 and now.

I wish I had an attic with tobacco!

 

[deluxestogie]

In the early hours of the morning, I climbed into the attic of my house with a lighter in my pocket.

Excellent! I agree with everything except climbing into your attic with a lighter.

Bob

 

[koceff]

@deluxestogie I don't have any other leaves. I only have the "no burners" and about 5 kg of unkilned leaf.

@Oldfella I am not going to trow it away. I will send it to its room to calm down a little. I doubt WLT ship to N.Macedonia and even if they do, the shipping is gonna be pricey and also customs.

@GIL Happy to see this.

i will let them set for a while, air them out, take hem for a walk and candle light dinner. maybe the candle will provoke them somehow

 

[Oldfella]

@koseff sorry I forgot where you live. I just remembered that I have a friend that only grows Virginia Gold and finds that is too harsh. His trick is to soak in boiling water (well water) for a few minutes then dry,case,and smoke. You could try this as heat destroys chlorine. Will it work for you? Don't know. Worth a try though, just work on one leaf and see.
Oldfella

 

[koceff]

@Oldfella I was thinking of doing the same with a few leaves, just to see what happens. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[koceff]

I soaked some leaves in boiling water for about 30 minutes and dried two of them right after. BUUUURN. I rolled a small cigar yesterday but the binder and wrapper were in high case so I'll try it today. Hope i didn't jinx it.

 

[MadFarmer]

I soaked some leaves in boiling water for about 30 minutes and dried two of them right after. BUUUURN. I rolled a small cigar yesterday but the binder and wrapper were in high case so I'll try it today. Hope i didn't jinx it.

Are you still casing with tap water?

 

[Patriotguy]

I made a mistake the first year I grew, I overwatered with city water and had also put down gypsum for some reason in the soil...I forget why, maybe thinking I was correcting some acidity levels or something. This caused my Connecticut to not want to burn, turn black and taste horrible. even after aging for 3 years, it smelled amazing but still didn't burn well and had a very odd taste.

 

[koceff]

So i sprayed KNO3 on some leaves and let them absorb it for a couple of days.
Got them in case after that and rolled a dozen.
Tried one and it was faaar better. It was smokable. Had to relight it a couple of times but it is ok.
It was tunneling but that i think is a different issue.