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Ninja rat made it into the wall behind the family room yesterday, I heard its little rat teeth gnawing away. It took some will power to restrain from firing a few well placed shotgun blasts into the wall...
Two more of my poison bars went missing last night. That's 4 in total now, hopefully they work. I was reading about mouse/rat poison. A lot of them take 4-5 days to work. Vitamin K 1 (which I've never heard of before) is typically given as an antidote to pets that accidently eat many of the anticoagulant poison baits. Vitamin K1 is also present in dog food so its entirely possible my little friend is eating the poison bait followed by a snack of dog food, thereby effectively treating himself. I think I need to find a poison with a different mode of action...
On the plus side I did scare a smaller rat out of the lumber in the garage and it ran right into a sticky trap. One down, but larger grey ninja rat remains elusive.
Just for fun here is a list of baits I've tried in the traps so far - peanut butter, Nutella, general tsuo's spicy chicken, orange chicken, ham, bacon, fruit gushers, honey roasted peanuts, and strawberry. They seem to know what the traps are and aren't touching any of it.
I have to take Warfarin (Rat Poison) as a blood thinner. This is monitored by blood tests, it has to be within a range, in my case between 2-3. I went way up to 10 once and got a call to rush to the Doctors, the nurse came running out before I even got out of the truck and stuck the needle in. Yep, Vitamin K. That's twice now
However your rat problem. I dug up a nest once and found a pile of bait eggs stored neatly for winter food. So if you break up the bait they have to eat it. That worked great for me. Just make sure your pets and birds can't get at it. I put it in a length of 3" PVC drain pipe, you'll figure out.
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That's a good idea about breaking it up. I think these guys are just hauling it off like you said. That would be a lot of bait to choke down even for a couple of rats.
 

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Let's hope the ninja rat doesn't learn too fast
Good video, the dude is serious about his trap collection;) They can be smart critters, there is no doubt about that. I think the one I caught today was more luck than anything. I had my sticky trap in the same spot for a few days and I know if he hadn't been running from me he would have probably continued to avoid it. Think he just forgot it was there temporarily in his haste to get away.
One night I had two traps arranged near one of the holes so they would have to hit them going in or out. The next morning one of the traps was pushed aside slightly, neither was sprung and the bait wasn't touched. I'm getting pretty convinced they know what the traps are.
 

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I'm curious what you do with a thrashing, gnashing, live rat that you "catch" on one of those sticky traps.

I've had several ugly experiences with a mouse clawing up everything within reach, attempting to free itself, and in the process, getting sticky goo on some surrounding items. Rather than apply a coup de grace myself, I was fortunate enough for the night air to be in the low teens at the time, and just tossed them out the door. The following morning, I properly disposed of the frozen mouse.

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I've had experience dispatching mice with the sticky traps. No rats thankfully.
Half the mice were dead (i think the stress of being glued killed them). The others, well...
The sticky traps I used were like a hard back book. I closed the book, and stamped on it.
I felt awful, but, it was the quickest way I could think of ending them.

This was when I moved into my house. Previous owners just lived with them. It took a lot of work to mouse proof the house (if you cant board over a gap, stuff it with wire wool)

I still keep loaded snap traps and glue traps under the kitchen units and do random checks for droppings. None seen now for a few years.

Anyhow i ramble.

Good luck with the ninja rat plant dude. Your battles will be legendary
 

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One night I had two traps arranged near one of the holes so they would have to hit them going in or out. The next morning one of the traps was pushed aside slightly, neither was sprung and the bait wasn't touched. I'm getting pretty convinced they know what the traps are.
I was told by an exterminator I know that they smell you on the trap and ignore it, so use gloves when setting...
 

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I'm curious what you do with a thrashing, gnashing, live rat that you "catch" on one of those sticky traps.

I've had several ugly experiences with a mouse clawing up everything within reach, attempting to free itself, and in the process, getting sticky goo on some surrounding items. Rather than apply a coup de grace myself, I was fortunate enough for the night air to be in the low teens at the time, and just tossed them out the door. The following morning, I properly disposed of the frozen mouse.

Bob
This type of sticky trap folds in half (like Moth just mentioned) I folded the top half down on top of it, took it outside, then did a caveman impression with the flat side of the shovel a few times to end its sad little squealing. Not pleasant, but it's end was quick.

I'm not a big fan of the sticky traps. I once had to free a small corn snake from one. Once something gets on those there is no getting it off gently. Desperate times call for desperate measures though;)
 

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I was told by an exterminator I know that they smell you on the trap and ignore it, so use gloves when setting...
I thought about that but figured a lot of items in the garage are covered with our scent and they don't seem to care. It's worth a try though next time I hose them off and change the bait.
I've got some larger live catch traps on order so hopefully I can get ninja rat in the garage and a few of his buddies outdoors. I'm almost scarred to see what we are going to catch in the chicken pen - we have a skunk that lives in the field near our house and I think it comes to visit occasionally... I can handle walking through the forrest at night with black bears, wild hogs, and venomous snakes, but man skunks scare me:)
 

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Skunks waddle at the pace of a duck. They turn around and walk away if you talk to them without frightening them. They are profoundly stupid. If they don't turn around, but come toward you, then they are rabid.

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I don't think I would care to release one from a live catch trap:)
 

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Made the mistake of putting a little smelly compost tea in the garden. I don't know if it was rats or some other critter that was attracted to it but they got in the garden and snapped the top off of a tobacco plant and knocked over a sun flower and some basil. On the plus side I caught a large rat in the woodpile last night. Here's hoping it was ninja rat going out for a stroll, I'm probably not that lucky though.
3 rats and 1 mouse down so far... No sounds of ninja rat scratching in the family room wall this morning, fingers crossed:)
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The gestation period is between 21 and 23 days. Litter size: Female rats produce litters between 5 and 12 pups depending on the species. Amazingly, female rats can produce as many as 7 litters per year which means up to 84 offspring per year.

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The gestation period is between 21 and 23 days. Litter size: Female rats produce litters between 5 and 12 pups depending on the species. Amazingly, female rats can produce as many as 7 litters per year which means up to 84 offspring per year.

www.vancouverwildlife.com
Lovely. I've got some live catch traps on order so I'm going to try a year round outdoor rat campaign in hopes of keeping them out of the garage.
Any thoughts of if the tobacco plant shown a few posts above is worth saving or should I just replace it? The top 3 leaves and main stem were broken off. It's broken pretty close to the bottom leaf so I'm not sure if the axillary meristem by the leaf was damaged.
 
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