WLT Cigar Blends Kits

[jvnshr]

Today I received my first order from WLT, all the way from the States to Azerbaijan (I wonder whether I am the first person who has ever imported some cigar tobacco to this small country or not). I didn't know how customs office will react so I didn't take any risk by ordering few pounds of tobacco, just went for the kits. Long story short, I received the kits below:

Melodioso Cremosa:
- Ecuador Los Rios Wrapper
- Dominican Olor Binder
- CV Dominican Seco
- Dominican Ligero

Sabroso Medio:
- Cameroon Wrapper
- Sumatra Binder
- Corojo Viso
- Piloto Cubano Seco

My question is about CV Dominican Seco and Piloto Cubano Seco, are they same leaves or different leaves from the same place and same year?
Edit: I hope I got the links right.

 

[FrostD]

Today I received my first order from WLT, all the way from the States to Azerbaijan (I wonder whether I am the first person who has ever imported some cigar tobacco to this small country or not). I didn't know how customs office will react so I didn't take any risk by ordering few pounds of tobacco, just went for the kits. Long story short, I received the kits below:

Melodioso Cremosa:
- Ecuador Los Rios Wrapper
- Dominican Olor Binder
- CV Dominican Seco
- Dominican Ligero

Sabroso Medio:
- Cameroon Wrapper
- Sumatra Binder
- Corojo Viso
- Piloto Cubano Seco

My question is about CV Dominican Seco and Piloto Cubano Seco, are they same leaves or different leaves from the same place and same year?
Edit: I hope I got the links right.

They are both Seco, which should have more combustion than a Viso or Ligero. I was going to say that the Piloto Cubano may have came from a different region than the Cibao Valley Dominican Seco, however the description says that it comes from the Cibao Valley as well. I would say that you would get different flavor profiles out of each and perhaps some larger leaf to use as a binder for the CV Dominican Seco. Best way to determine would be to roll up some “puros” or roll up a couple sticks with higher ratios of each seco to see which comes out better for your taste.

 

[FrostD]

Today I received my first order from WLT, all the way from the States to Azerbaijan (I wonder whether I am the first person who has ever imported some cigar tobacco to this small country or not). I didn't know how customs office will react so I didn't take any risk by ordering few pounds of tobacco, just went for the kits. Long story short, I received the kits below:

Melodioso Cremosa:
- Ecuador Los Rios Wrapper
- Dominican Olor Binder
- CV Dominican Seco
- Dominican Ligero

Sabroso Medio:
- Cameroon Wrapper
- Sumatra Binder
- Corojo Viso
- Piloto Cubano Seco

My question is about CV Dominican Seco and Piloto Cubano Seco, are they same leaves or different leaves from the same place and same year?
Edit: I hope I got the links right.

Congrats as well on the cigar journey as well! Out of the leaf I’ve tried out of the kits you received, you have a good mix of great tasting leaf. Both wrappers are great to start with a fairly forgiving. Both binders have excellent flavors, the Olor a little easier to work with than the Sumatra.

 

[jvnshr]

They are both Seco, which should have more combustion than a Viso or Ligero. I was going to say that the Piloto Cubano may have came from a different region than the Cibao Valley Dominican Seco, however the description says that it comes from the Cibao Valley as well. I would say that you would get different flavor profiles out of each and perhaps some larger leaf to use as a binder for the CV Dominican Seco. Best way to determine would be to roll up some “puros” or roll up a couple sticks with higher ratios of each seco to see which comes out better for your taste.

Thanks for the response, @FrostD. I am familiar with the leaf types actually. Both are 2016 crop and from CV, so I was confused. I have already rolled a few sticks (ordered from a different vendor), the results were good enough. As you have mentioned, before rolling a whole cigar from different leaves, I always roll a puro form a single leaf to taste it. I have to say that I have learned all of that from this forum and @waikikigun's videos.

Congrats as well on the cigar journey as well! Out of the leaf I’ve tried out of the kits you received, you have a good mix of great tasting leaf. Both wrappers are great to start with a fairly forgiving. Both binders have excellent flavors, the Olor a little easier to work with than the Sumatra.

Thanks for the input. I am glad that I am on the right track.

 

[deluxestogie]

Your receipt of your order from WLT made me smile this morning (morning here; evening there). Transport and shipping worldwide are unpredictable this year, even for the simplest things from nearby locations. Congratulations on having the courage to order it as well as having selected some excellent tobacco.

"Dominican" seco/viso/ligero has always been a murky description, inherited from cigar manufacturers, who seldom reveal a varietal name, but traditionally just a geographic origin. "Piloto Cubano" is a specific variety, which is theoretically a Cuban seed variety that is grown in the Dominican Republic. But its origin was likely from the Vuelta Abajo during the early 20th century, at a time when there was no uniformity to what was grown in the Vuelta Abajo. Having grown a number of carefully identified Cuban tobacco varieties, as well as a number of carefully identified Dominican varieties (including Piloto Cubano), I have no doubt that Piloto Cubano resembles none of the current Cuban varieties. Piloto Cubano is quite distinctive. Exactly what the "Dominican" variety may be is unclear.

Bob

 

[jvnshr]

Your receipt of your order from WLT made me smile this morning (morning here; evening there). Transport and shipping worldwide are unpredictable this year, even for the simplest things from nearby locations. Congratulations on having the courage to order it as well as having selected some excellent tobacco.

"Dominican" seco/viso/ligero has always been a murky description, inherited from cigar manufacturers, who seldom reveal a varietal name, but traditionally just a geographic origin. "Piloto Cubano" is a specific variety, which is theoretically a Cuban seed variety that is grown in the Dominican Republic. But its origin was likely from the Vuelta Abajo during the early 20th century, at a time when there was no uniformity to what was grown in the Vuelta Abajo. Having grown a number of carefully identified Cuban tobacco varieties, as well as a number of carefully identified Dominican varieties (including Piloto Cubano), I have no doubt that Piloto Cubano resembles none of the current Cuban varieties. Piloto Cubano is quite distinctive. Exactly what the "Dominican" variety may be is unclear.

Bob

Bob, the tobacco was delivered to a warehouse in the States and then forwarded to Azerbaijan via a third-party (forwarding company). I have to say that your service is amazing, I was surprised how fast the kits were shipped.

Honestly speaking I have never liked cigars with Piloto Cubano Ligero; there is some bitterness that disturbs my palate, even though I am a huge fan of Cuban cigars. Hopefully Piloto Cubano Seco won't have that bitterness.

 

[deluxestogie]

Just to clarify, I am not involved in the operation of WLT (nearly 400 miles from me). I just administer this forum. @FmGrowit and his WLT employees get all the credit for their excellent service.

Bob

 

[jvnshr]

Just to clarify, I am not involved in the operation of WLT (nearly 400 miles from me). I just administer this forum. @FmGrowit and his WLT employees get all the credit for their excellent service.

Bob

Bob, you guys are all doing a great job. Thanks for everything.

 

[jvnshr]

Here are the kits by the way:

 

[Homegrowngoodnes]

Let us see some of your sticks and how they smoke and taste!