leverhead
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Skunkworks.....about a week..... This I'll have to tune in for. Two sides of a rusty chain link curtain?
deluxestogie Grow Log 2012
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Skunkworks.....about a week..... This I'll have to tune in for. Two sides of a rusty chain link curtain?
Randy,
Last year the Xanthi Yaka was planted at ~2.5 sq. ft. per plant (a spacing which allowed it to reach a topped height of 49", with 14" x 8" leaves). This year it's about half that (~1.2 sq.ft. per plant).
Bob
Thanks Bob, I planted mine about 30 inches apart. I'm happy with the spacing because it allows me full access to each plant. If I grow Xanthi Yaka again I'll probably reduce the spacing to 20 inches or so. The other Turkish varieties I'll keep at about 30".
Randy
Randy
Cautionary Cornplanter Comment
Yesterday, I scavenged a small quantity of Sacred Cornplanter [rustica] leaf that had spontaneously sun-cured on the mud beneath the plants. One was intact enough and large enough to wrap a 4" petite corona. The rest of the scavenged leaf was used as filler. No binder.
Such trash and flyer leaf is usually the mildest smoke I get from a particular variety, and often has little or no flavor, compared to leaf from higher stalk positions. If that is true for the Cornplanter, then this is an impressively potent plant. The cigar offered an aroma like typical rustica (slightly weedy), and burned well. Flavor was subdued, "dry" and somewhat nutty. I would rate this little cigar as medium-to-full-bodied, with the nicotine load of a full-size, moderately strong robusto.
I guess I could have taken a hint from the fact that the only hornworm I've found on any of the Cornplanter was not on a leaf, but on the abundant, tender stems of the dense bud head. (And you thought hornworms were dumb.) When the nicotine on a leaf gets too high for a hornworm, it moves up the plant to reach milder leaf. This poor hornworm ran out of mild, and ended up on the bud stems.
As I recall from sampling some of FmGrowit's rustica, the weediness subsides after kilning, making it a smoother blending leaf.
Bob
Yesterday, I scavenged a small quantity of Sacred Cornplanter [rustica] leaf that had spontaneously sun-cured on the mud beneath the plants. One was intact enough and large enough to wrap a 4" petite corona. The rest of the scavenged leaf was used as filler. No binder.
Such trash and flyer leaf is usually the mildest smoke I get from a particular variety, and often has little or no flavor, compared to leaf from higher stalk positions. If that is true for the Cornplanter, then this is an impressively potent plant. The cigar offered an aroma like typical rustica (slightly weedy), and burned well. Flavor was subdued, "dry" and somewhat nutty. I would rate this little cigar as medium-to-full-bodied, with the nicotine load of a full-size, moderately strong robusto.
I guess I could have taken a hint from the fact that the only hornworm I've found on any of the Cornplanter was not on a leaf, but on the abundant, tender stems of the dense bud head. (And you thought hornworms were dumb.) When the nicotine on a leaf gets too high for a hornworm, it moves up the plant to reach milder leaf. This poor hornworm ran out of mild, and ended up on the bud stems.
As I recall from sampling some of FmGrowit's rustica, the weediness subsides after kilning, making it a smoother blending leaf.
Bob
On Tuesday (yesterday) afternoon, I received two visitors, about an hour apart. The first was a gentleman who wanted to talk tobacco growing. That's always rewarding.
The second was a lady and her ~9 year old daughter. With a bright smile, the mother came to my door to ask what those beautiful plants were. She apparently had been watching them grow from wee transplants into 5 and 6-foot leafy wonders.
"That's tobacco," I replied. "Forty two different varieties from all over the world."
The daughter frowned. The mother's mouth continued to smile, but her eyes revealed embarrassment. She nodded.
"You're welcome to look at them up close."
"They are pretty. But we have to get on home now. Nice meeting you."
Bob
The second was a lady and her ~9 year old daughter. With a bright smile, the mother came to my door to ask what those beautiful plants were. She apparently had been watching them grow from wee transplants into 5 and 6-foot leafy wonders.
"That's tobacco," I replied. "Forty two different varieties from all over the world."
The daughter frowned. The mother's mouth continued to smile, but her eyes revealed embarrassment. She nodded.
"You're welcome to look at them up close."
"They are pretty. But we have to get on home now. Nice meeting you."
Bob
DonH
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Children are heavily indoctrinated in schools a these days about tobacco.
BarG
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Damn, Your plants are pretty exceptional Bob. No wonder your attracting attention.
Tom_in_TN
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Children have recently been heavily indoctrinated in schools about the 'evil' tobacco weed. The world began to change once the EUROPEANS discovered tobacco, some good changes and some questionable changes. Today's attitude among-st most people is troubling and should concern todays tobacco growers. All 'growers' should be careful. Tobacco has a long, ancient and varied history.
BarG
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Yea, They can pry my STOGIE from my cold dead burning lips. And my guns from my cold dead gripping hands. And my corns from my cold dead corny toes. Them corns might provide some fuel.
i am really looking forward to seeing the leaves, as they cure,
and pay attention to the way d-stogie handles them, and any special home-made devices, he may use to ferment them, and store them flat..e.t.c.
this whole thread, is going to be helpfull to anyone who grows a good cigar..
allthough im not a cigar connisuer, im intrested, in case, i may grow some one year, '' i got the ct, shade leaf going'' this year
and pay attention to the way d-stogie handles them, and any special home-made devices, he may use to ferment them, and store them flat..e.t.c.
this whole thread, is going to be helpfull to anyone who grows a good cigar..
allthough im not a cigar connisuer, im intrested, in case, i may grow some one year, '' i got the ct, shade leaf going'' this year
BarG
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Sorry Bob but I have to set chicken straight.
Chicken, Because you like to smoke a cigar does not mean you are a coniseur. It beats the hell out of rolling cigarettes.
To truly enjoy and appreciate a good cigar would be the first step to being a connesieur.
I smoke what I got.
Chicken, Because you like to smoke a cigar does not mean you are a coniseur. It beats the hell out of rolling cigarettes.
To truly enjoy and appreciate a good cigar would be the first step to being a connesieur.
I smoke what I got.
Remember, "Mighty aches from little old corns grow." 
J
J
BarG
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John,
mighty giant robust oaks grow from little tiny acorns. They only ache when they marry a leeny.
mighty giant robust oaks grow from little tiny acorns. They only ache when they marry a leeny.
Rayshields
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Hey Tim...would you mind un-bundling that for us?
BarG
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I should have never gone there in the first place. Sorry Bob.
The side-garden Turkish are finally doing something. Note the burley-size leaf of the Mutki.
I would love to see comparison photos of JBD's MCY and MCB.
Mont Calme Yellow (I think)--seed from BarG.
This CT Shade--seed from johnlee1933--is now approaching 7'.
Sacred Cornplanter rustica is clearly a productive variety. Whether or not it's something I want to smoke has yet to be determined.
Bob
Bob, I'm going to try to post some pics tomorrow. In the mean time though take a look at your "Monte Calme Yellow" it should have a light cream colored stem on the underside of the leaf. Monte Calme Brun on the other hand has a nice dark green stem.
Randy
Randy
Well, the Gods are plotting against me again. About a month ago I stopped being able to download pictures from my camera so I've been taking the sim card out and putting it in a sim card reader and downloading pictures that way. Tonight I was going to load some pics of MCY, TN90 etc and now my computer tells me the device is not recognized. I'll just have to post the info I have and maybe update next week when I figure the picture thing out, or do a suitable offering of burnt tobacco to the Gods that I have evidently pissed off.
Blasphemer Randy
Blasphemer Randy
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