That's true. You should be proud, being a part of this beautiful forum. I am. Going googleing now...tyvek?
Thanks Bob.
Thanks Bob.
deluxestogie Grow Log 2014
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Tyvek is a non-woven HDPE fabric that is waterproof, but still breathable (water vapor can pass through, but not liquid water). You may see the word, "Tyvek," printed across the white sheeting that is used to protect newly constructed houses. The non-paper envelopes that USPS offers for Priority Mail and Express Mail are Tyvek. Ebola protective clothing is Tyvek. Any large postal envelope that you receive that is not paper, and will not tear, is Tyvek or one of its imitators. You can also buy Tyvek mailers at any office supply store.
For years, I've considered sewing a backpacking tent, along with a backpack, out of construction-grade Tyvek. Never got around to it.
Because Tyvek does not tear, I've used it to create slip-through tags for individual tobacco seed pods (while doing a crossing experiment):
and stitch a Tyvek tag into each Agribon-AG15 bud bag that I sew:
For the bud bags, the tag is extending inside the bag when it is stitched, so that it extends outside the bag, once it's turned right side out.
"One word...'plastics'." Tyvek, Agribon, Ziplock, poly-Nylon, polyester, acrylic. Making our world a better place.
Bob
For years, I've considered sewing a backpacking tent, along with a backpack, out of construction-grade Tyvek. Never got around to it.
Because Tyvek does not tear, I've used it to create slip-through tags for individual tobacco seed pods (while doing a crossing experiment):
and stitch a Tyvek tag into each Agribon-AG15 bud bag that I sew:
For the bud bags, the tag is extending inside the bag when it is stitched, so that it extends outside the bag, once it's turned right side out.
"One word...'plastics'." Tyvek, Agribon, Ziplock, poly-Nylon, polyester, acrylic. Making our world a better place.
Bob
Bex
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Better Living Through Chemistry!!! Ah, those were the days, eh?? I get those envelopes all the time - and usually dump them, not realizing how handy they could be, or that it wasn't just me that couldn't rip them open with my teeth. Now I know, and will treat them with better care.
I'm assuming that's not hand stitching on your bags, by the way (or would be well impressed) - but it's impressive enough that you can use a sewing machine. Many talents.....
I'm assuming that's not hand stitching on your bags, by the way (or would be well impressed) - but it's impressive enough that you can use a sewing machine. Many talents.....
Sew what? Since the 1960s, I sewed my own theater costumes. [For a production of Jean Anouilh's Becket, I had to create a complete set of formal vestments for the Archbishop of Canterbury, as well as his miter.] In the 1970s, I sewed clothing for myself--hippie days. In the 1980s, I sewed my 7 y/o son's costume for a tap dance recital, complete with piping down the seams. [At 36, his recollection of the recital and its inevitably cute photos bring nothing but mortification.] I won a ribbon (alas, only a red) for a wool dress vest (with tailored buttonholes and a high pocket for pince nez glasses) that I entered into the otherwise all female State Fair competition. After my grandchildren were born, I would re-purpose my worn out jeans into toddler overalls.
Using a handy power tool doesn't require the presence of sawdust or grease.
Back to tobacco--a 250 foot roll of 9 foot-wide Agribon-AG15 costs roughly $50. It makes excellent, inexpensive bud bags.
Bob
DGBAMA
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At that price, the àg15 would be cheaper than landscape cloth for weed control. Would it work?
You deserve Cuban puro.
I need to learn sew. I can not find jeans that will last. Now days you need to buy cloths annually. Good old hemp days.
I need to learn sew. I can not find jeans that will last. Now days you need to buy cloths annually. Good old hemp days.
ArizonaDave
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Excellent information Deluxe Stogie!!!
I'm adding this to my ever growing notes on Tobacco! Thank you again!
I'm adding this to my ever growing notes on Tobacco! Thank you again!
Brown Thumb
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Awesome post, Next year I can see the post office loosing more money. Due to everyone putting the FREE Priority Mail envelopes on there Baccy Plants. Super Idea.oq
Based on my experience.... No. I used it about twenty years ago early in the season to protect my plants from early frosts. I ended up leaving the fabric down longer than I should have and before I knew it all kind of weeds grew through it.
Weeds and grass will eventually grow through most spun landscaping cloth. Agribon-AG15 is too thin to be effective. Agribon does make sever heavier grades, but all of them are engineered as insect barrier or frost protection, not as landscape barrier.
Bob
Bob
Bex
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I wouldn't have guess the actor part....but I would have guessed the hippie days.
Regarding landscape barriers, part of the problem is keeping dirt/soil off the top of them - I did something similar some years ago, and put a covering of stones on top of the landscape barrier. Within one year, weeds were beginning to grow - not necessarily coming through the bottom - but from the top. Once any small amount of dirt lands on the barrier, any wind driven seed that settles on it will root. I was inundated with chickweed - pretty much out of control - until I learned that is was edible. But that is for another section of this forum.....
I have been reading about mulch - perhaps more 'unsightly' but having a dual function. If you use a good, biological mulch - and I have read that 8 inches of it over the soil is the target height - it keeps weeds at bay during the year, breaks down to feed the soil beneath it, etc. It needs to be renewed each season, to keep the 'cycle' going.
By the way, I can sew. I find it almost as hateful as painting....
Actually, If you look at old films from the Woodstock festival you can see Bob in the first row. He's the one with long hair, dark sunglasses, a peace sign necklace and striped bell bottoms. He used to answer to "man" back then. He is also smoking something that to this day he still swears was a cigar..
Stoners can't sew.
Bob
Bob
Bex
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Um, yeah, we could. Just not well....
leverhead
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Bex
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Um, what were we talking about...????
DGBAMA
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Ear ye! Ear ye!
It was just too abrupt. Growing seasons should end gradually. With a hard frost predicted, last night I picked a quart of tiny, green pear tomatoes, and pickled them. [I had done the same with all the tiny, green cherry peppers two days ago.] Today, the weather warmed up to a beautiful, sunny 60ºF.
With nothing to do (that I felt like doing), I walked through the remaining bare tobacco stalks that I hadn't pulled up. Auricles! They all bore abundant, leafy green leaf auricles high enough above the ground to have avoided the frost. I went back inside, then returned with a 1 gallon Ziplock, and began to strip off auricles--only from the stalks of cigar varieties.
When the auricles ran out, I then scouted cigar sucker leaf that appeared mature, but otherwise too tattered to bother with. I stripped these, a half-leaf at a time, from their central stems, tore them to 1-2" chunks, and added them to the gallon Ziplock.
The stuffed Ziplock now sits closed, resting on a seedling mat on a sun-drenched shelf of my enclosed back porch. I went through this routine a couple of years ago, just to see if it works, so I have confidence that for my 20 minutes of effort, I will end up with about 4 ounces of deep brown, "dashboard-cured" cigar leaf to use in rolling short-filler sticks.
Twice a day, the bag needs to be opened, the excess water poured out, and the bag resealed. It takes 1 to 2 weeks to complete. Then the bag goes into the kiln for a month. I think the process is a cross between sun-curing and steamed Cavendish. Regardless, it does make very smokable leaf. And it's pre-blended.
This season, I stalk-harvested much of my cigar filler. In the photo below, the latest to be harvested are hanging in front of 4 rows of earlier ones. I have frequently checked them for signs of mold. So far, all of the stalk-harvested varieties are curing nicely.
Below is a stalk of Prilep 66-9/7 sun-curing. It, along with about 20 other stalks of small Orientals, move between the shed and the clothesline, depending on the weather. Stalk-curing the Orientals seems to minimize the risk of flash-curing green in the sun.
I still have a couple of dozen stripped tobacco stalks still standing. I wait until one full sunny day following a rainstorm to pull them. The rain softens the soil holding the roots, and the day of sun dries it enough to avoid the extra effort of yanking up a giant mud ball with each stalk. Once pulled, I lay them on the bed for a week or two of drying, so that I can knock off all the dirt. Then they go to the brush pile.
Bob
It was just too abrupt. Growing seasons should end gradually. With a hard frost predicted, last night I picked a quart of tiny, green pear tomatoes, and pickled them. [I had done the same with all the tiny, green cherry peppers two days ago.] Today, the weather warmed up to a beautiful, sunny 60ºF.
With nothing to do (that I felt like doing), I walked through the remaining bare tobacco stalks that I hadn't pulled up. Auricles! They all bore abundant, leafy green leaf auricles high enough above the ground to have avoided the frost. I went back inside, then returned with a 1 gallon Ziplock, and began to strip off auricles--only from the stalks of cigar varieties.
When the auricles ran out, I then scouted cigar sucker leaf that appeared mature, but otherwise too tattered to bother with. I stripped these, a half-leaf at a time, from their central stems, tore them to 1-2" chunks, and added them to the gallon Ziplock.
The stuffed Ziplock now sits closed, resting on a seedling mat on a sun-drenched shelf of my enclosed back porch. I went through this routine a couple of years ago, just to see if it works, so I have confidence that for my 20 minutes of effort, I will end up with about 4 ounces of deep brown, "dashboard-cured" cigar leaf to use in rolling short-filler sticks.
Twice a day, the bag needs to be opened, the excess water poured out, and the bag resealed. It takes 1 to 2 weeks to complete. Then the bag goes into the kiln for a month. I think the process is a cross between sun-curing and steamed Cavendish. Regardless, it does make very smokable leaf. And it's pre-blended.
This season, I stalk-harvested much of my cigar filler. In the photo below, the latest to be harvested are hanging in front of 4 rows of earlier ones. I have frequently checked them for signs of mold. So far, all of the stalk-harvested varieties are curing nicely.
Below is a stalk of Prilep 66-9/7 sun-curing. It, along with about 20 other stalks of small Orientals, move between the shed and the clothesline, depending on the weather. Stalk-curing the Orientals seems to minimize the risk of flash-curing green in the sun.
I still have a couple of dozen stripped tobacco stalks still standing. I wait until one full sunny day following a rainstorm to pull them. The rain softens the soil holding the roots, and the day of sun dries it enough to avoid the extra effort of yanking up a giant mud ball with each stalk. Once pulled, I lay them on the bed for a week or two of drying, so that I can knock off all the dirt. Then they go to the brush pile.
Bob
DonH
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That's a great idea to stalk sun cure the orientals.
I see black pepercorns in the pickle jar but what's the other stuff, roasted sesame seeds ?
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