Fisherman's grow blog; Port Lavaca Texas ,Gulf coast
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workhorse_01
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Oh yes and a very good flavor ! It's mostly grown for snuff and chew but that's only because of the thickness of the leaves. See the thicker the leave the more surface to bite through and the longer it last's. Imagine chewing on a piece of paper or a piece of clean-ex . Smokers seem to like thin leaf tobacco (I think thinner leaf doesn't tear up their schreders) but one sucker makes fine makins for cigars my neighbor will testify to that. I got a pic I'll post in my grow blog tonight. You can smoke any tobacco that we grow though, people choose different varieties for flavors, harshness, thickness, and amount of nic. so grow it and chew it or smoke it. Just remember never ever chew or try to smoke raw un-cured tobacco! It can or will KILL YOU!!!
Oh yes and a very good flavor ! It's mostly grown for snuff and chew but that's only because of the thickness of the leaves. See the thicker the leave the more surface to bite through and the longer it last's. Imagine chewing on a piece of paper or a piece of clean-ex . Smokers seem to like thin leaf tobacco (I think thinner leaf doesn't tear up their schreders) but one sucker makes fine makins for cigars my neighbor will testify to that. I got a pic I'll post in my grow blog tonight. You can smoke any tobacco that we grow though, people choose different varieties for flavors, harshness, thickness, and amount of nic. so grow it and chew it or smoke it. Just remember never ever chew or try to smoke raw un-cured tobacco! It can or will KILL YOU!!!
Fisherman
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I used to chew Levi Garret and loved the smell. I had thought it was the flavoring made it that way. I am going to grow something more later to blend. I thought I had the rest of mine sold on CraigsList but I think they were spammers.
I used to chew Levi Garret and loved the smell. I had thought it was the flavoring made it that way. I am going to grow something more later to blend. I thought I had the rest of mine sold on CraigsList but I think they were spammers.
workhorse_01
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I have 40# of one sucker aging in a feed sack in my barn and it smells so good it makes me want to chew it.
I have 40# of one sucker aging in a feed sack in my barn and it smells so good it makes me want to chew it.
workhorse_01
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It's packed in like one of bigbonners cubes. In a big chicken feed sack.
It's packed in like one of bigbonners cubes. In a big chicken feed sack.
Fisherman
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http://www.bnd.com/2013/04/19/2580000/gardening-tobacco-takes-lots-of.html
Back in 1921, a mutant tobacco plant was found growing near Washington, D.C.. It had unusually large leaves and grew to 9 feet tall. This giant, later named the New Maryland Giant, did not flower immediately like other tobacco plants. It flowered only when cuttings were made and placed in a greenhouse of the U.S. Department of Agriculture later in December of that year. The seed produced by these plants produced large plants as well and the plants would only flower later in the year, usually December.
The two researchers -- W.W. Garner and H. A. Allard -- also discovered the Biloxi variety of soybean, which flowered later in September no matter when the original soybeans were planted. They discovered with these two plant varieties the term "photoperiodism" (the biological response by plants to a change in the proportions of light and dark in a 24-hour cycle).
Getting back to the seed, you will want to find Nicotiana grandiflora purpurea or Nicotiana altropurpurea grandiflora in the name. There are several varieties to choose from as this is a hybrid cross with Nicotiana chinensis, a plant originally growing in China and Java.
http://www.bnd.com/2013/04/19/2580000/gardening-tobacco-takes-lots-of.html
Back in 1921, a mutant tobacco plant was found growing near Washington, D.C.. It had unusually large leaves and grew to 9 feet tall. This giant, later named the New Maryland Giant, did not flower immediately like other tobacco plants. It flowered only when cuttings were made and placed in a greenhouse of the U.S. Department of Agriculture later in December of that year. The seed produced by these plants produced large plants as well and the plants would only flower later in the year, usually December.
The two researchers -- W.W. Garner and H. A. Allard -- also discovered the Biloxi variety of soybean, which flowered later in September no matter when the original soybeans were planted. They discovered with these two plant varieties the term "photoperiodism" (the biological response by plants to a change in the proportions of light and dark in a 24-hour cycle).
Getting back to the seed, you will want to find Nicotiana grandiflora purpurea or Nicotiana altropurpurea grandiflora in the name. There are several varieties to choose from as this is a hybrid cross with Nicotiana chinensis, a plant originally growing in China and Java.
workhorse_01
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I only make 20 cans of copenhagen at a time. My wife let me have that little shelf at the top of the freezer in her side by side.
workhorse_01
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What would happen if I crossed Maryland giant with the pollen from little dutch ? I know that would be a hybrid but the reproductive organs would be in tact, and I bet I could Reproduce the same plant before the end of the year. If we have the same type of summer as last year. We could call it Andre the giant Dutch.
What would happen if I crossed Maryland giant with the pollen from little dutch ? I know that would be a hybrid but the reproductive organs would be in tact, and I bet I could Reproduce the same plant before the end of the year. If we have the same type of summer as last year. We could call it Andre the giant Dutch.
Fisherman
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4-28-13:
Well things were going good until I had a lil bout once again with the yellowing. As previously stated, tobacco responds very fast to any "medication" or nutrient you give them so my old brain settled on a "once and for all" method of correcting the problem and used a cheleated iron foliar spray in a very lethal dose. And the results were really ugly..... The next day the leaves were greasy lime green and actually melted. So dont use that stuff in anything but the prescribed method and dosage. On the bright side , plants are not ruined just not looking as good as they could. I have a ph meter coming that will help me to find what i need as far as soil correction and I still have plenty of time to mature some leaf.
PS: the spray did get rid of the yellowing
4-28-13:
Well things were going good until I had a lil bout once again with the yellowing. As previously stated, tobacco responds very fast to any "medication" or nutrient you give them so my old brain settled on a "once and for all" method of correcting the problem and used a cheleated iron foliar spray in a very lethal dose. And the results were really ugly..... The next day the leaves were greasy lime green and actually melted. So dont use that stuff in anything but the prescribed method and dosage. On the bright side , plants are not ruined just not looking as good as they could. I have a ph meter coming that will help me to find what i need as far as soil correction and I still have plenty of time to mature some leaf.
PS: the spray did get rid of the yellowing
BarG
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I don't envy you having to container grow! You do have a containerized mini jungle going there though.
I don't envy you having to container grow! You do have a containerized mini jungle going there though.
DonH
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Have you tried Epsom Salts for magnesium?
Have you tried Epsom Salts for magnesium?
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Your plants have really taken off. Nice job.
Your plants have really taken off. Nice job.
Fisherman
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epsom salts worked but I wanted to see if iron was a problem thus showing I needed total nutrient additive and it seems I do . My mix is good one for drainage but purposefully short of fertilizers and such.
Fisherman
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WOW! had an idea!
An electric planer for shredding tobbacco............................
Would have to make a frame and make a pressed block of leaf but i bet the blades and motor would really tear up some leaf! You can get a 2 blade one from skill for $70 and a Bosh for about the same but is counter balanced and 1 blade.
Blades on ebay for like $10 . They are gear driven also.. If it can plane down a 4x4 it can for sure so a lil ole block of smokes.
Maybe mount planer on bottom and make sheet metal housing to feed in the block or brick or maybe even whole leaf...........................
Well hell. they probably thought a pasta maker was a dum idea once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thickness_planer
WOW! had an idea!
An electric planer for shredding tobbacco............................
Would have to make a frame and make a pressed block of leaf but i bet the blades and motor would really tear up some leaf! You can get a 2 blade one from skill for $70 and a Bosh for about the same but is counter balanced and 1 blade.
Blades on ebay for like $10 . They are gear driven also.. If it can plane down a 4x4 it can for sure so a lil ole block of smokes.
Maybe mount planer on bottom and make sheet metal housing to feed in the block or brick or maybe even whole leaf...........................
Well hell. they probably thought a pasta maker was a dum idea once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thickness_planer
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I had a similar idea using a jointer: http://fairtradetobacco.com/showthread.php?1416-Wood-Jointer-for-shredding The idea didn't seem to go over too well. lol
WOW! had an idea!
An electric planer for shredding tobbacco............................
Would have to make a frame and make a pressed block of leaf but i bet the blades and motor would really tear up some leaf! You can get a 2 blade one from skill for $70 and a Bosh for about the same but is counter balanced and 1 blade.
Blades on ebay for like $10 . They are gear driven also.. If it can plane down a 4x4 it can for sure so a lil ole block of smokes.
Maybe mount planer on bottom and make sheet metal housing to feed in the block or brick or maybe even whole leaf...........................
Well hell. they probably thought a pasta maker was a dum idea once.
I had a similar idea using a jointer: http://fairtradetobacco.com/showthread.php?1416-Wood-Jointer-for-shredding The idea didn't seem to go over too well. lol
Fisherman
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i see....
Im talking about the hand held kind and rigging it upside down and making a housing like the one in this video uses......................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E41BpYr9Ks4
It is an accepted shredder for tobacco...
Once the "funnel" part is mounted to the planer it should do the same as the lil one only faster and maybe even more precise. Would have to think a few about the exhaust part tho...........
I bet Amax could rig one in a flash
i see.... Im talking about the hand held kind and rigging it upside down and making a housing like the one in this video uses......................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E41BpYr9Ks4
It is an accepted shredder for tobacco...
Once the "funnel" part is mounted to the planer it should do the same as the lil one only faster and maybe even more precise. Would have to think a few about the exhaust part tho...........
I bet Amax could rig one in a flash
Fisherman
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I just tryed it with rolled up copy paper........ like 50 sheets x 2 " wide.......... would make pipe tobacco. would have to be slowed down
I just tryed it with rolled up copy paper........ like 50 sheets x 2 " wide.......... would make pipe tobacco. would have to be slowed down
jekylnz
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R they pb6 black bag pots u have there or r they bigger??
R they pb6 black bag pots u have there or r they bigger??
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