DGBAMA
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Pick a bunch of leaves and make a pile on the ground, in a couple hours, they will wilt/soften enough to be filled into a big trash bag without damage for transportation to your curing area.
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POGreen
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Thanks for the idea DG , sounds like an effictive way to get them more manageable.
Remember last year when I had 10 plants in every planthole , harvested sand/mudlugs first an after a few weeks more all the other leaves.
I colourcured them leaves in piles and it turned out pretty good but was a lot of work to keep remake the piles every day to make them go yellow.
My mind was set to colourcure first and hang leaves when they got yellow.
Leaves were really sweating in those bricklayers boxes and changed colour , top leaves were more difficult to cure ofcourse.
I filled the boxes with leaves out on the patch and had them on my bike using straps to keep the box steady.
Remember last year when I had 10 plants in every planthole , harvested sand/mudlugs first an after a few weeks more all the other leaves.
I colourcured them leaves in piles and it turned out pretty good but was a lot of work to keep remake the piles every day to make them go yellow.
My mind was set to colourcure first and hang leaves when they got yellow.
Leaves were really sweating in those bricklayers boxes and changed colour , top leaves were more difficult to cure ofcourse.
I filled the boxes with leaves out on the patch and had them on my bike using straps to keep the box steady.
Watching the video on the rope in Brazil I see they wilt the leaf, then twist it green. By the time it gets to market it is the tastiest looking stuff. If you try this method with some of your grow it might make transportation much easier. And we can compare notes later, I'm going to go all in trying this method. The twist seems like the perfect solution to me personally for a lot of my own issues and might address yours as well.
I have some lugs and lower primings out on the grass in full sun now. Going to go get them in a bit and then practice on them so I have a better idea what to expect with the upper leaf
I have some lugs and lower primings out on the grass in full sun now. Going to go get them in a bit and then practice on them so I have a better idea what to expect with the upper leaf
POGreen
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Have a link to that video Smokes ?
Reckon this is what you mean
Jeezz , you're goin all in on this method ?
Thanks for the info , sounds like a good solution I agree
Check this one out , sayin page 6 , a twist of tared rope : http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-devils-acre/9780007273973/bookmarks.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/unforth/3413917264/
I got to have the bacca in dry format but guess one could do that later after you sort of cured it in that twist
Reckon this is what you mean
Jeezz , you're goin all in on this method ?
Thanks for the info , sounds like a good solution I agree
Check this one out , sayin page 6 , a twist of tared rope : http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-devils-acre/9780007273973/bookmarks.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/unforth/3413917264/
I got to have the bacca in dry format but guess one could do that later after you sort of cured it in that twist
The whole country seems to do it that way without a loss in quality, and my main issue is curing. Once harvest rolls around I have a week, maybe 2 before humidity drops to nothing with the arrival of freezing temps. I'm not set up to humidify the house much less an outbuilding so I usually lose some leaf anyway. With twists this would be better.. I'm pretty sure at least. So no reason to not go all in. I lost half my grow to an ill timed but unavoidable vacation so it isn't an enormous amount anyhow. But from past efforts the tighter I bundle things the better it goes, this seems the next logical step for me. It seemed like it might benefit you also from your space restrictions which is why I mentioned it and your the only other person I know growing this monster rustica.
POGreen
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I lost my GC-1 to them dang slugs.
But I have other varieties looking like that.
This is what it looked like yesterday.
But I have other varieties looking like that.
This is what it looked like yesterday.
That is such ferocious looking leaf.
Bob
Bob
Brown Thumb
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I looks like a slowly moving blob leaf. Its gonna get ya. Don't turn yor back on it.
Cool lookin chit.
squeezyjohn
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I would suggest being cautious putting all your eggs in one basket like that ... I have massive moulding issues air curing where I am ... so last year I employed the carrotte method for my semi-colour cured leaves - and it worked with regards to space saving and removing the moulding risk ... however - the tobacco produced this way tasted soooo different from the straight air-cured leaf that it was a completely different thing. I think that the Brazilian green leaf twist would taste different by another degree again ... so ... yeah - it might work - but be careful!
Also - I have worked extensively with rustica an I have concentrated on making twist from it and the texture of a rustica leaf is so very different from a normal tobacco leaf (it is far more rubbery and thick) that I'm not sure that it would take to the Brazilian rope making process so well ... to get a twist that doesn't end up in tatters that dry hard is massively difficult even when hand rolling them.
Finally I don't think that most Brazilian tobacco is processed this way ... The documentary seems to be describing a dying art (and my Portuguese is very bad so I might be wrong) - I assumed that most Brazilian tobacco is flue or air cured - with the Amerelinho tobacco being a specialist type.
Well, by the time the lugs have gone thru the process I might have learned it's a bad idea, otherwise I've tried the most common methods with varying results, this is my 4th year, and whole leaf is so reasonable to buy with such high quality I'm not too concerned. I will be sure to report back either way though.
Oh it's not all rustica most is criollo black and nl madole
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Lord, The baccy monster is loose!
That's interesting. The Bolivia Criollo Black (BCB) took kilning and a year of aging to lose most of its odd, chemical taste. But the Perique I made from color-cured BCB was done in 3 months under pressure, and had zero chemical taste.
Bob
squeezyjohn
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Don't get me wrong ... having seen the videos I am definitely having a go at that Brazilian stuff ... but it will almost definitely come out like a different product!
POGreen
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I can't seem to find any of those videos you have been watching , can someone send me a link to any of them ?
Muito obrigado
Muito obrigado
Sorry on a phone, it was under the thread about y1. I searched for y1 rope to get our to come up again. It really looks like quality stuff when done.
POGreen
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http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/4363-Y1-Tobacco/page2
This has got to be the thread you mean Smokes
This has got to be the thread you mean Smokes
squeezyjohn
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Actually it was this one PO ...
http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/4512-quot-Amarelinho-quot-Twist-Rope-Tobacco-(variety)?highlight=amarelinho
But thanks for finding that other video ... I missed that one ... looks like a similar process.
http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/4512-quot-Amarelinho-quot-Twist-Rope-Tobacco-(variety)?highlight=amarelinho
But thanks for finding that other video ... I missed that one ... looks like a similar process.
POGreen
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Did you see sky is having a Summer Sale on all kinds of seeds ?
http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/4816-Dog-Days-of-Summer-Sale
http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/4816-Dog-Days-of-Summer-Sale
POGreen
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Some pictures from today when I was out on the patch to take down a number of plants , 15 I guess
Haven't worked as hard as I did this afternoon for quite some time now , but I'm pleased with the result.
Cut down a birchtree when NoOne was lookin and strung all plants up on a steelwire
I'm pretty beat up after this and a pizza+coke............
Haven't worked as hard as I did this afternoon for quite some time now , but I'm pleased with the result.
Cut down a birchtree when NoOne was lookin and strung all plants up on a steelwire
I'm pretty beat up after this and a pizza+coke............
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