China Voodoo 2019 Grow Log d'Incertitude

[deluxestogie]

Skychaser's site lists Japan 8 as an Oriental, which is improbable. (GRIN lists Perique variety as an Oriental as well.) From his images, it looks perhaps like an Orinoco-derived flue-cure variety, but so does Perique. Two-foot long leaves that look like this are not Orientals.

Also, he consistently list the GRIN PI number when it's available.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I am nearly certain it's a dark tobacco.
I know this sounds ludicrous, but I've smoked enough of it to say that if I was to compare it to anything, flavour wise, it's a cross between an Indian cheroot, and semois.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

The wind bent over the bagged head on my l'Assomption 201 plant. I couldn't quite see, but I was suspicious because it wasn't looking very healthy. I pulled the bag off and made a little cast for the top of the plant.

My question is, if it's not flowering any more, do you think I need the bag?

And the busted off seed pods are kaput, right?

 

[deluxestogie]

If you remove any later blossoms, then you no longer need the bag. As for the broken-off pods, I would be inclined to dry them, then just toss the ones that don't look plump. Of course, you will get thousands of seeds from a single pod.

I've had plants that were stalk-harvested and hung for sun-curing (after all flowering heads were completely removed) go on to produce new seed heads. They're stubborn things.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I honestly don't know if this is the right thing to do with the ripe leaf, but it's what I'm going to try. Hands of ten on a spindly, spinny wire thing. I think the fact that the stems get the most heat and sun and wind will help prevent mold.




Hashtagurbangardening

 

[deluxestogie]

spindly, spinny wire thing

I Googled that, but the results were not pretty. If your sun cooperates, then I think you may be successful.

Bob

 

[Charly]

I agree, with enough sun and wind it will cure easily

 

[tullius]

I've never cured tobacco so def don't speak from any experience, but those moist fat ribs bound tight together look like a sure sight for moldy stems to me. You do have them butt end up in the sunshine (uv rad) and hopefully good air circ, so you should be good. What's the harm in stringing them up though? Do half and half to get all eggs out of one basket? Just a thought. Been a tough grow year for you to lose any leaf at this point, and could be a good experiment.

 

[tullius]

Put another way: the part of the leaf that takes the longest to dry is bound the tightest.

Maybe I'm way off.

Free advice! Half the time it's worth less than you pay for it.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Put another way: the part of the leaf that takes the longest to dry is bound the tightest.

Maybe I'm way off.

Free advice! Half the time it's worth less than you pay for it.

I was thinking what you were thinking. There's a lot of wind up here and if I hang strings, I will probably lose a lot of leaf. Catching individual leaves snapped off, blowing in the wind is something I can't do. Monitoring these bundles is something I can do.

Also, the strings will look trashy and someone might complain. And I don't want to get into a prolonged discussion about Canada and law, but we are only allowed to cure tobacco which we grew on land we occupy. This tobacco was from a friend's place.

 

[tullius]

Roger that, gentle dry breezes and quiet neighbors to you.

 

[docpierce]

I honestly don't know if this is the right thing to do with the ripe leaf, but it's what I'm going to try. Hands of ten on a spindly, spinny wire thing. I think the fact that the stems get the most heat and sun and wind will help prevent mold.

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Hashtagurbangardening

I for one would really like to see a slow turning motor applied here. like a ersatz tobacco carousel. Who else would like to msee that? Can a homey get some love?

 

[Yvan the terrible]

Got the plants in the garage since the weather was to cold at night, may be able to put them back in the green house Thursday for a few more days of sun, in the event that the weather stays permanently cold should I leave them turn yellow in the garage (no sun) or cut the leaves and dry them?

 

[GreenDragon]

I’d stalk harvest them and hang to slowly color cure.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Mine is inside at room temperature with moderate natural light and is beginning to show clear signs of ripening in the form of mottled yellowing. I think it doesn't hurt them to be indoors to ripen.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Here's an update on the Japan 8 curing:


And here's an update on the L'assomption 201 grow.

 

[Yvan the terrible]

Ok, so one plant did produce nice pods. What’s the next step to harvest the seeds? And nope, I won’t take them one seed at a time.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Just make sure they're dry and put them in a container or little baggies.

Then probably send a message to @skychaser to see if he would like some.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

It's L'Assomption 201 aka
ARS-GRIN# TI 1624 or PI 430516

 

[Yvan the terrible]

Just make sure they're dry and put them in a container or little baggies.

Then probably send a message to @skychaser to see if he would like some.

Should I let the green ones dry first? I have a shrink wrap machine, would that help conserve the seeds?