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China Voodoo's Carotte Method

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In response to a relatively common concern:

View: https://youtu.be/EgWb6ZvqE90?si=CVpByWf7WCoGeOBr
If you want it to ferment, you'll want it to be more moist than what I have in the video.
Hey brother,
This is an awesome video. So can I ask you a question? This would be okay for grinding up to flour afterward for making snuff ( the dipping kind) correct? Also, basically fermentation requires pressure, heat, and moisture? Anyway, great video! Great video!
 

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Hey brother,
This is an awesome video. So can I ask you a question? This would be okay for grinding up to flour afterward for making snuff ( the dipping kind) correct? Also, basically fermentation requires pressure, heat, and moisture? Anyway, great video! Great video!
Thank you.
I see no reason why it wouldn't work for smokeless tobacco.
You said "basically", and I would agree that the general components of fermentation are pressure heat and moisture. I would add that there are different ways and that some might argue oxygen is another component.

I think you can do:
Pressure and moisture and heat and oxygen
Pressure and moisture and oxygen
Pressure and moisture and heat
Pressure and moisture
Moisture and heat
Pressure and heat
 

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Hey brother,
This is an awesome video. So can I ask you a question? This would be okay for grinding up to flour afterward for making snuff ( the dipping kind) correct? Also, basically fermentation requires pressure, heat, and moisture? Anyway, great video! Great video!
Wruk53 has used this method for making snus. He made a carrotte out of powdered leaf, and used this method. It gave a fermented quality to the tobacco flour.
 

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I made a carrotte today as per China Voodoo's excellent video. I used Virginia Gold that was hanging in the barn and I'll let the carrotte rest until March 1st. The one thing I'm hoping for is that this will be the substitute for not having a kiln because I'm off grid.
 

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Thank you.
I see no reason why it wouldn't work for smokeless tobacco.
You said "basically", and I would agree that the general components of fermentation are pressure heat and moisture. I would add that there are different ways and that some might argue oxygen is another component.

I think you can do:
Pressure and moisture and heat and oxygen
Pressure and moisture and oxygen
Pressure and moisture and heat
Pressure and moisture
Moisture and heat
Pressure and heat
Yea… it’s all
Learning experiences … I’ve pressure cooked My first batch of cirginia
One sucker… I’m going to press into plugs afterward…thisnis what I got
 

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Has anyone tried using a medical tensor bandage to apply pressure to a carotte? Lately it's what I've been using, and it seems to apply a lot of pressure. No problem of the wraps becoming slack.
 

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I’d like to give the CV’s tape method a go, but aside from not coming across any when I’m out shopping, I’m not convinced I can get it as tight as I do with rope (as I can stand on the loose end and reef on it with two hands for every pass). The adhesive bit has a lure though.

Not sure a tensor bandage with all its stretchy-ness would work as well either… but I’ll let you be the judge of that.
 

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I’d like to give the CV’s tape method a go, but aside from not coming across any when I’m out shopping, I’m not convinced I can get it as tight as I do with rope (as I can stand on the loose end and reef on it with two hands for every pass). The adhesive bit has a lure though.

Not sure a tensor bandage with all its stretchy-ness would work as well either… but I’ll let you be the judge of that.

I still use a rope binder. The tensor is an additional application of force. I was really surprised by how much extra pressure it seemed to produce. I use a wide and long tensor which I believe is for broken ribs or something.
 

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If you like the rope method and haven't gotten mold, I think you should stick with it. I lost a lot of symbol 4 when I tried it and was put off the risk.
I’d like to give the CV’s tape method a go, but aside from not coming across any when I’m out shopping, I’m not convinced I can get it as tight as I do with rope (as I can stand on the loose end and reef on it with two hands for every pass). The adhesive bit has a lure though.

Not sure a tensor bandage with all its stretchy-ness would work as well either… but I’ll let you be the judge of that.
 

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Nope, never had issues with mold.

Was your Symbol 4 wrapped in plastic, similar to in your video when you used the cigar bag? Depending on the size, I use either plastic food wrap or sandwich bags (turning the carrotte/rope into a twist first).
 

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Nope, never had issues with mold.

Was your Symbol 4 wrapped in plastic, similar to in your video when you used the cigar bag? Depending on the size, I use either plastic food wrap or sandwich bags (turning the carrotte/rope into a twist first).
It wasn't. I just used rope. Ahh. I see how you're doing it. I'm glad we had this conversation.
 

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Sailors would roll the rope in a sack prior to wrapping with rope. Those sacks were probably a lot more breathable than food wrap, but I imagine the sea air could’ve helped keep the mold at bay.

If you’re not in too much of a rush to smoke it after the month or few that you have it wrapped: after unwrapping try toasting it in the oven for 3 hours at 190F. Place it in a loose foil envelope to keep the moisture in (giving it a light mist of distilled water at the 1 and 2 hour mark). If it needs to be cut to fit into a mason jar, cut to length before toasting. After the 3 hours (promptly) remove the foil and toss your carrote/twist into the mason jar (2 part lid) and close it up. It should draw the seal in. Leave it in a dark space for a week or two before opening it up.
 
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