Fisherman's grow blog; Port Lavaca Texas ,Gulf coast

[workhorse_01]

I want to be sure to duplicate the same plants over and over

http://delstartech.thomasnet.com/vi...elnet/delnet-pollination-bags?&bc=100|3001152

This is a commercial bag and about $0.55 each by the 1000's. Shipping and tax would bring them to $0.65 or so.

that is cheaper and some government agencies use them as well.

Knucklehead's bag looks good and if I am not mistaken it can take a lot of abuse which it would not get in the field.

IF just keeping out insects is the goal it should work fine. If the goal is keep out pollen itself then something else should be used.

My reasoning is that if a group of commercial scientist/seed savers/tobacco growers use the ones in my link in this post and they cost only 6 bits, then thats what I want to use.

 

[Fisherman]

5-10-13:
Sowed 12 varieties from different dealers today. Got maybe 4 more in mail and 1 left here to sow later as they arrive.
Mowhawk= large seeds
Turkish Izmir = 2nd variety of this strain
Turkish Samsun
Burley Original
Kelly Burley
Cherry Red
African Red
Little Dutch
Conneticut Broadleaf
*One Sucker
Golden Burley
Catterton

So far on sowing #2 all but the BALIKESIR show good germination.

 

[JessicaNicot]

IF just keeping out insects is the goal it should work fine. If the goal is keep out pollen itself then something else should be used.

we just use the bags to keep insects out. tobacco pollen doesnt blow like that of corn, etc such that we assume no crossover between our rows. we routinely plant wildly different market types next to each other (like orientals next to burleys) and to my knowledge havent ever had problems with odd things turning up in the next generation.

 

[Knucklehead]

Fisherman- if the Burley Original is from the tobacco seed co, it is TN90, I e-mailed and asked.

 

[Fisherman]

No was from another fella. Good amount of seeds better than the last one I bought from but not as much as first fella I pm'd you whose it was.

 

[Fisherman]

5-10-13:
My crap leaves are yellowing after about 8 days hanging. Immature and tattered. No mold ............. Is learning curve. Dam I love dis chit

 

[DGBAMA]

Just noticing the fine print in the pics; even tobacco seeds now come with a "surgeon general's warning". LOL.

 

[AmaxB]

That African Red sounds interesting have you got a pic & or information about it?

 

[AmaxB]

Just did a search
African Red is a bright leaf variety with light green colored leaves and white stemmed.
A vigorous grower reaching 8 feet (200cm) in height at the first crows foot.
Plant form is columnar. Average size of 10th leaf at maturity 28 inches (60cm).
Leaf width 12" (25cm) 28 leaves total on un-topped plants, not including bed leaves. Matures in 80 days.
Has a high nicotine content, averaging 29.8 mg/g of dried leaf.

 

[Knucklehead]

No was from another fella. Good amount of seeds better than the last one I bought from but not as much as first fella I pm'd you whose it was.

Burley Original is just a made up name. If you plan to save the seed, e-mail the company and try to find out the variety name, so you'll always know. The Tobacco Seed Co uses the name Burley Original for their TN90. Their Virginia Gold #1 is K326. Their Virginia Gold #2 and #3 are hybrids. If you bought a hybrid, saving seed would be a waste of time, as the hybrid would begin to revert back to one of it's parent strains. Pot luck. Some home growers wouldn't care one way or the other as they just buy new seed every year. But with your record keeping, I think you'll want to know the true variety name instead of a name just made up to sound more commercially attractive. Especially when you start sharing seed with newbie's.

 

[DGBAMA]

Just did a search
African Red is a bright leaf variety with light green colored leaves and white stemmed.
A vigorous grower reaching 8 feet (200cm) in height at the first crows foot.
Plant form is columnar. Average size of 10th leaf at maturity 28 inches (60cm).
Leaf width 12" (25cm) 28 leaves total on un-topped plants, not including bed leaves. Matures in 80 days.
Has a high nicotine content, averaging 29.8 mg/g of dried leaf.

Will definitely be interested in hearing more about this one. From what I have read, the "white stemmed" varieties are easier to color cure/dry and it sounds like a high yielder too.

 

[Fisherman]

Burley Original is just a made up name. If you plan to save the seed, e-mail the company and try to find out the variety name, so you'll always know. The Tobacco Seed Co uses the name Burley Original for their TN90. Their Virginia Gold #1 is K326. Their Virginia Gold #2 and #3 are hybrids. If you bought a hybrid, saving seed would be a waste of time, as the hybrid would begin to revert back to one of it's parent strains. Pot luck. Some home growers wouldn't care one way or the other as they just buy new seed every year. But with your record keeping, I think you'll want to know the true variety name instead of a name just made up to sound more commercially attractive. Especially when you start sharing seed with newbie's.

True. I will contact them for sure.

 

[JessicaNicot]

Burley Original is just a made up name. If you plan to save the seed, e-mail the company and try to find out the variety name, so you'll always know. The Tobacco Seed Co uses the name Burley Original for their TN90. Their Virginia Gold #1 is K326. Their Virginia Gold #2 and #3 are hybrids. If you bought a hybrid, saving seed would be a waste of time, as the hybrid would begin to revert back to one of it's parent strains. Pot luck. Some home growers wouldn't care one way or the other as they just buy new seed every year. But with your record keeping, I think you'll want to know the true variety name instead of a name just made up to sound more commercially attractive. Especially when you start sharing seed with newbie's.

wow- what an asshole move by the seed company to re-brand the seed like that. those cultivars were originally under plant variety protection (pvp), since expired, but i still dont see it as being ok to just call the cultivar something else.

 

[Fisherman]

5-12-13:

Been picking flowers and a few suckers but not to many. I think I got a few leaves close to picking?
Woulda been better if i hadnt ruined 4 leaves or so on each plant with that dam iron foliar super strength spray







Gutters [3 x 24'] used 15 gallon water today together and all buckets are dry on top .......




I am 5' 11" and flower is hairline hi but in bucket



Washed the growbags top leaves off for a few having aphids and found lots of ladybug eggs



We had a hot day and had a few plants with really cooked leaves.

 

[holyRYO]

Those plants do you justice... beautiful garden you have there!

 

[Boboro]

The drupy leaves will be ok in the morin.

 

[DGBAMA]

dang those look good.

 

[AmaxB]

Man this is just pure inspiration! Like It, want it, an hope to do as well as YOU HAVE...

 

[DGBAMA]

so you have some type of "wick" from the bottom of each bucket hanging into the gutter full of water?

 

[Chicken]

damn dude, you must have strated those things, in december,

they truly are looking good, a positive example that you can grow in 5 gallon buckets, [ you should put that in your tag's ] in case someone searches 5 gallon buckets,

it's a sight, a lot of first time growers will see this year.. THIER FIRST CROP,