leverhead
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Yes, on the 6th. About three weeks later than I should have. We've had enough rain this year, I think that I'll make it through without additional water.
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Yes, on the 6th. About three weeks later than I should have. We've had enough rain this year, I think that I'll make it through without additional water.
leverhead
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And they're off!
Pleasant sight this morning, my spare time is spoken for! Many thanks to Jitterbugdude and NorthWood seeds! Pix by LGF.
Pleasant sight this morning, my spare time is spoken for! Many thanks to Jitterbugdude and NorthWood seeds! Pix by LGF.
leverhead
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Plans have changed for both the layout of the patch and the plant count for each variety. About 100 Bitlis got planted Monday evening and an equal number of Adiyaman were planted Tuesday afternoon. More varieties will get planted as time allows, I can get a few hours in the evenings if things go well.
That's a wonderful comparative grow. At what spacing are you transplanting them within the row? How much space between rows?
Bob
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leverhead
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The row and plant spacing is by this chart, https://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/faq-about-turkish-tobaccos.1799/#post-30319
The only real deviation is that I left 2 foot walkways between the Bitlis, Celikhan, Adiyaman and the left hand side of the patch. The rest is the normal 40 cm/ 15 3/4" row to row.
Now I'm hoping the chances of hail tomorrow are a bad joke.
GreenDragon
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Tobacco is amazingly resilient. Unless they are beaten to absolute mush, they'll probably bounce back quickly from any hail. Good luck!
Levi Gross
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Good luck in your grow.! All Turkish sounds like a wonderful grow.
It's hard to argue with istanbulin on that subject. Of course, it's impossible to argue with him, unless he shows up on the forum.
Bob
leverhead
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It is possible to argue with him, as long as you don't expect to win.
leverhead
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I'm still smoking what I grew in '13, it's become favorite as a group. The only real drawback is the plant count and little information for yield, it would be nice to be able to plan around quantity desired for the different varieties.
leverhead
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It is pretty damned tough! I'll be posting later about my seedlings and their planting, more sensitive viewers may not want to watch.
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For yeld, expect around 50 grams of cured leaf for the Celikhan, a pinch less for the Prilep. I’ve not grown the other strains -yet-
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leverhead
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Thank you! We can compare notes later in the season.
All ancient Ottoman tobacco traditions aside, I've reached the conclusion that most if not all Oriental tobaccos will sun-cure beautifully when stalk-harvested, and sun-cured on the stalk. Some of the bottom leaf yellows on the stalk early, and may need to be primed, but 80 to 90% of the leaf can remain on the stalk until the top leaf matures enough. Sun-curing on the stalk minimizes their tendency to dry with green spots. Stalk-harvesting removes the labor of fiddling with so many small leaves, and tediously stringing them.
When estimating yield, I think that yield per square foot of planting area is a more useful metric. Denser planting means smaller plants and smaller leaves, but more leaves per square foot. So you probably break even in terms of total weight of leaf per square foot. I failed to record (as far as I can determine) the weight of my Düzce in 2018, but my 26 Düzce plants from a 5' x 6' bed yielded a bushel basket of cured leaf. I think my two Prilep varieties planted several years ago produced a similar yield.
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When estimating yield, I think that yield per square foot of planting area is a more useful metric. Denser planting means smaller plants and smaller leaves, but more leaves per square foot. So you probably break even in terms of total weight of leaf per square foot. I failed to record (as far as I can determine) the weight of my Düzce in 2018, but my 26 Düzce plants from a 5' x 6' bed yielded a bushel basket of cured leaf. I think my two Prilep varieties planted several years ago produced a similar yield.
Bob
GreenDragon
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Good to know! I may try growing some next season.
leverhead
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Commercially, pounds per acre is cited often. On the forum, ounces per square foot or grams per square
meter would be more useful units to talk about. It's just a matter of scale. For me, yield per plant is still useful. I've got about 1000 Sq Ft and about 1000 plants to fill it.
I'm not too scared of the harvest.
leverhead
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By last night I had 6 of 14 varieties planted before the storm, we got about 1 1/4" of rain. Everything looks a bit dirty, but happy. This evening I hope to get 2 more varieties planted.
leverhead
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Mine will have about 1.1 sq ft per plant. If I had put it in row 11 or 12 ( from the right ) it would have had .88 sq ft. Its not in yet, should I move it?
I've never been bold enough to plant anything at istanbulin's 2-3.9 inch spacing. Allowing 0.88 sq. ft. is way more space than that. (I believe that in Turkey, there is a tendency to overcrowd them, just to yield tinier and tinier average leaf size--because the buyers like tiny leaves for some reason.)
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