The Knucklehead way to Grow a Blog

[workhorse_01]

Yeah, I hope that goes through, what a difference that would make for FM. With Jessica joining the group it put his site miles above the others on the net. In knowledge and seed availability.

 

[Knucklehead]

Following is my seed grow out list. These should be available to the membership this fall. The May 6th seedlings are the seed I got from Grin, except for the three cigar varieties, which I got from Skychaser. April 29: Grow Out Starts
VA Brightleaf flue cure Speight G-28 flue cure
Speight G-70 flue cure
401 Cherry Red flue cure
Coker 319 flue cure
Coker 48 flue cure
NC 82 flue cure
NC 79 flue cure
Coker 282 flue cure
GL 939 flue cure
K149 flue cure
Oxford 940 flue cure
GL 737 flue cure
ROBERTSON flue cure
Reams 158 flue cure
VA 116 flue cure
K 326 flue cure
SP 172 flue cure
GL 973 flue cure
NC 95 flue cure
NC 2326 flue cure
Coker 176 flue cure
Coker 371 Gold flue cure
McNair 135 flue cure
McNair 373 flue cure
McNair 944 flue cure
Dixie Bright flue cure
Vesta 64 flue cure
Yellow Pryor flue cure
Havana 211 binder
Havana 503b binder
Mass CK-1 binder
Havana K-1 binder
FOREHEIMER GUNDERTHEIMES III filler
PA Broadleaf filler
Swarr filler
0-40 wrapper
CCC-L wrapper
Connecticut 15 wrapper
Connecticut C-2 wrapper
Connecticut 49 (Barwell) wrapper
Florida 2612 wrapper
GC-2 wrapper
GEN 911 wrapper
John Williams Conn. BDL wrapper
Kupchonos Conn. BDL wrapper
M-1 wrapper
Scantic wrapper

May 6[SUP]th[/SUP] Grow Out Starts

Florida Sumatra
Habano 2000
Cuban Criollo 98
PI 405566 Turkish
PI 405568 Turkish
Harmanliiska Basma # 163 PI 286819 Bulg.
Kozarsko # 541 PI 286820 Bulgarian
Nevrokop # 5 PI 286823 Bulgarian
Sultansko PI 286828 Bulgarian
Alma-Ata 315 PI 293909 Bulgarian
Djebel 174 PI 321709 Bulgarian
Ostrolist B-27-47 PI 321712 Bulgarian

 

[DGBAMA]

Wow Knucks.........when we last talked you said you had your hands full, but were not ready to give your full grow list; now I see why........and it seems you have gotten even more ambitious since then. If you need a hand with bagging/etc later on, let me know. Only a short drive away to give a hand for an afternoon or two. We still need to get together on that Lunch at Romas too.

 

[Knucklehead]

What I'll definitely need is someone who wants to pick and cure a lot of this leaf. I'll probably only harvest a hand or so from each one for testing and sampling. My personal grow will probably fill my curing space. I may also give you a shout at bagging time. That's a very generous offer. My personal grow has also swelled to the following: 50- Virginia Gold K326, 50- TN90 Burley, 18 Samsun - Maden, 18 Izmir-ozbas, 20- Smyrna #9, 5- Jalapa, 5- Olor, 5- Lonnie's Havana, 3- CT Shade, 3- CT Broadleaf, 3- Glessnor, 3- Little Dutch, 3- Vuelta Abajo, 3- Comstock Spanish, 3- PA Red Leaf, and 10- Yellow Twist Bud. There may be more, I'm starting to lose track. lol Like Stogie says at the end of each year, next year, I'm cutting back. lol

 

[Knucklehead]

Many thanks for all the seed contributions this year from my fellow members. I hope to pay forward that generosity.

 

[DGBAMA]

Many thanks for all the seed contributions this year from my fellow members. I hope to pay forward that generosity.

+1 on that Wallace, including yourself. Thanks to you and a number of others here I am off to hopefully a good start on my first grow and look forward to being able to give back to the community next year.

 

[Kaneo]

Best of luck to your grow out Knucklehead, you have bitten off alot of work there - its good to see your growing out all those grin varietys for FTT - hats off mate

 

[Knucklehead]

Best of luck to your grow out Knucklehead, you have bitten off alot of work there - its good to see your growing out all those grin varietys for FTT - hats off mate

Thanks Kaneo. One of my favorite saying used to be - "I may be crazy, but I ain't stupid." This year may have me reassessing that position. LOL

 

[skychaser]

That's quite a list. You are gonna be a busy boy. Some of those I have grown and some of them I have never even heard of. I see some trading in our futures come fall.

The Gold Leaf 939 was one of my personal favorites from last season. A very nice Virginia Gold type plant with large leaves that turn golden yellow when ripe. It matures fairly early and has a good yield. It's a keeper. I'm growing it again this year. I'd like to try some of the other GL varieties to see how they compare. Reams 158 is a nice plant. So is VA 116. I'd grow either of them again. 401 Cherry Red is a really good one. It was slow maturing but its one of the heaviest producing bright leafs I have grown yet. It air cures to a light reddish brown color and has a very nice mild flavor. Its a great cig or pipe tobacco. Might make a nice cigar filler too. Be sure to pluck a couple hands off that one.

 

[istanbulin]

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PI 405566 Turkish
PI 405568 Turkish
Harmanliiska Basma # 163 PI 286819 Bulg.
Kozarsko # 541 PI 286820 Bulgarian
Nevrokop # 5 PI 286823 Bulgarian
Sultansko PI 286828 Bulgarian
Alma-Ata 315 PI 293909 Bulgarian
Djebel 174 PI 321709 Bulgarian
Ostrolist B-27-47 PI 321712 Bulgarian

I wish you succes on growing this huge list Knucky. Looks like a good list but especially I'm really curious about the Oriental list above.

But the one variety in this list has a speciality, it's actually an Oriental variety from Kazakhstan, Alma-Ata. Alma-Ata was a capital of Kazakh SSR so probably this variety travelled a lot in other Eastern Block countries including Bulgaria. After collapsing of the USSR, Kazakstan declared it's independency and changed the capital to Astana. Also in modern language Alma-Ata is written like Almatı.

Where's Kazakhstan ?

I want to add an anecdote about the name "Alma-Ata". According to Turkish mythology, the first Apple tree in the planet Earth was planted in this place and Alma-Ata means "the ancestor of the apple" or "the place where the apple spread all over the World". Elma means "apple" in Turkish (dialect of Turkey), it's a little different but very reminiscent in other Turkish dialects, like Alma/Ulma/Ulmo/Olma, even in Hungarian it's "Alma".

 

[Knucklehead]

I had some help in selecting those varieties, as you should know. Interesting about the origin of the apple. Also interesting is the similarity between Elma and Eden.

 

[rainmax]

I wish you succes on growing this huge list Knucky. Looks like a good list but especially I'm really curious about the Oriental list above.

But the one variety in this list has a speciality, it's actually an Oriental variety from Kazakhstan, Alma-Ata. Alma-Ata was a capital of Kazakh SSR so probably this variety travelled a lot in other Eastern Block countries including Bulgaria. After collapsing of the USSR, Kazakstan declared it's independency and changed the capital to Astana. Also in modern language Alma-Ata is written like Almatı.


I want to add an anecdote about the name "Alma-Ata". According to Turkish mythology, the first Apple tree in the planet Earth was planted in this place and Alma-Ata means "the ancestor of the apple" or "the place where the apple spread all over the World". Elma means "apple" in Turkish (dialect of Turkey), it's a little different but very reminiscent in other Turkish dialects, like Alma/Ulma/Ulmo/Olma, even in Hungarian it's "Alma".

Alma is also muslim woman name . Also Spanish name. Ata means father. It can also be Almas father. When I read grow list from knucklehead first time I thought it is Macedonian. So many interesting names.
Knucky, I thought I'm crazy with so many varieties, Ok, I am. What about you than? LOL

God loves us.

 

[istanbulin]

Yes Maks, there're a lot of stories/beliefs about "Alma"; cultural, religious, linguistic and other. I just wrote a mythology about it.

 

[DonH]

I want to add an anecdote about the name "Alma-Ata". According to Turkish mythology, the first Apple tree in the planet Earth was planted in this place and Alma-Ata means "the ancestor of the apple" or "the place where the apple spread all over the World". Elma means "apple" in Turkish (dialect of Turkey), it's a little different but very reminiscent in other Turkish dialects, like Alma/Ulma/Ulmo/Olma, even in Hungarian it's "Alma".

I've heard that the apple tree really did originate in Khazakstan and there are entire apple forests there. That would be a sight, especially now when they're in bloom.

 

[deluxestogie]

Wallace,
It looks like your most critical job will be maintaining labels. Remember that Sharpie slowly fades in the sun. Labeled sticks break off and blow away. Maps are nothing more than expectations. Best of luck.

Bob

 

[Knucklehead]

Wallace,
It looks like your most critical job will be maintaining labels. Remember that Sharpie slowly fades in the sun. Labeled sticks break off and blow away. Maps are nothing more than expectations. Best of luck.

Bob

I bought some markers made by Dykem from McMaster-Carr. I hope they hold up better. I plan to mark the stakes, tag each plant when they get bigger, tag the bags and draw a map. I'll draw the map after the plants are in the ground. The sticks I'm using are layout stakes, one for each variety. I'm sure open to any suggestions anyone may have.

 

[skychaser]

Good point Bob. I've tried all those things and ended up having plants that I don't know what the hell they are anymore by the end of the season. Last year I got myself a couple sheets of 1/4 inch plywood and cut them into 4"x8" pieces and painted them all white. Then I took some old scrap 2x4 and made myself a big pile of 16" stakes and attached the plywood pieces to the stakes with screws. We used a big fat black felt pen to label each one in bold print that even I could read without my glasses. The rows are laid out in a grid pattern with a sign clearly marking the beginning and end of each variety. No mix ups last year at all. I'll slap a new coat of white paint on them and relabel them for this season. It was time well spent and they should last for many years.

 

[Knucklehead]

Sky, did the markers last longer on the white paint than on the bare wood? I could paint my stakes first.

 

[skychaser]

They didn't fade out at all. And the black on white made it very easy to spot them and read them. We used a wide tipped felt pen and not a sharpie.

 

[rainmax]

During the winter I make some tags. I'm going to attach it to each plant in my garden.