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I'm sure if I didn't live in a million+ city I could get it for less. Split, seasoned pine is around $400 a cord. Maybe I should move to Italy. Actually I should. I want to. I hate being cold. Spruce is only 200. Poplar maybe 150. It's dumb. They basically looked at the BTUs of the wood and priced it to match natural gas because that's how much people are willing to pay to not die in winter, rather than based on labour logistics and space.

Interesting. I guess it’s a supply and demand thing but poplar is far more expensive around here since it’s a hardwood. I was taught not to be burn pine in a fireplace or stove because of the resins and the creosote can stop up the flue or cause fires inside the flue. It also burns hotter and spits flaming stuff out onto the floor which can be another hazard. Poplar burns more slowly and can make some really nice furniture. I use pine in my fire pit outside because there are limbs laying all over the ground and I can just drag them over to the fire, but it takes a lot of fuel as they burn so fast. It makes great kindling until the hardwood catches up.
 

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I'm sure if I didn't live in a million+ city I could get it for less. Split, seasoned pine is around $400 a cord. Maybe I should move to Italy. Actually I should. I want to. I hate being cold. Spruce is only 200. Poplar maybe 150. It's dumb. They basically looked at the BTUs of the wood and priced it to match natural gas because that's how much people are willing to pay to not die in winter, rather than based on labour logistics and space.

$60 for that load of pine is a steal! Hope you have a chainsaw large enough to handle those logs though :)

If you are tired of the cold, come down here to Texas. I wear shorts and t-shirts 11 months out of the year. We're a friendly bunch; you'd fit right in.
 

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I wear shorts and t-shirts 11 months out of the year.
You may find it surprising that there are Albertans who wear shorts 12 months a year. My coworker and I were just talking about that last night. They are the same guys who wear their hoods up while they drive. Many of them listen to Eminem.
 

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Interesting. I guess it’s a supply and demand thing but poplar is far more expensive around here since it’s a hardwood. I was taught not to be burn pine in a fireplace or stove because of the resins and the creosote can stop up the flue or cause fires inside the flue. It also burns hotter and spits flaming stuff out onto the floor which can be another hazard. Poplar burns more slowly and can make some really nice furniture. I use pine in my fire pit outside because there are limbs laying all over the ground and I can just drag them over to the fire, but it takes a lot of fuel as they burn so fast. It makes great kindling until the hardwood catches up.
Maybe there are different densities between types of tree depending on where it grows. Poplar here burns more cleanly with less crackling, but it burns faster than pine. It doesn't weigh as much. It's also really prone to rot and often smells bad. Spitting and exploding conifer logs aren't really a problem if you have doors on your stove or fireplace. It's also important to clean your chimney, regardless of what wood you're burning. There is a significant difference between pine and spruce (our most common tree) here. Pine burns slower. Aside from importing unnecessary things like oak from Ontario, birch is the best thing you can buy.
 

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I'm sure if I didn't live in a million+ city I could get it for less. Split, seasoned pine is around $400 a cord. Maybe I should move to Italy. Actually I should. I want to. I hate being cold. Spruce is only 200. Poplar maybe 150. It's dumb. They basically looked at the BTUs of the wood and priced it to match natural gas because that's how much people are willing to pay to not die in winter, rather than based on labour logistics and space.
NZ is the best. Get to know people and you can get it free. Manuka is around $1-200 a Cubic Mtr (great for burning & smoking fish). Might be good for fire curing Tobacco. I've got gas much easier to chop, split and carry indoors.
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edit: we wear shorts all year up here in the Far North.
 

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$400 a cord for Pine? Holy crap! It's about $150 to $175 here. Douglas Fir, Larch and hardwoods go for around $250.
I've gotten to know 4 arborists over the years. It costs them $50 a load to dump it at the wood recycling place if they have no where else to dispose of it. So they bring it to me for free when ever they are working in my area. I got 20 cords in 2019. 6 more last fall and am hoping to get another 3 tomorrow. I burn 6-7 cords per year. It's mostly Pine and a little Maple, Elm and Poplar. Some times it is already bucked into 16" to 18" lengths and sometimes it is full logs. I have a couple of Maple and Poplar logs waiting for me to cut into boards. It's just too pretty to burn.
 

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This is why we say not to plant before labour day. Greenhouses must love this because so many people planted their gardens last week, (like my neighbour).

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Why don't you plant Tobacco instead of building a Skating ring?
Sure looks cold to me. We don’t have that and don't want it either.
Hope it warms up for you soon.
 
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