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I’m very sorry for the confusion, and for anyone who may have bought seeds in error.
But it looks very much like the Hyang Cho I had, is in fact, MD609.
And the “stunted” MD609 I have, is the REAL Hyang Cho- and its yields look to be VERY small.
Looks like I will end up with more European cigarette tobacco, and a lot less Korean pipe tobacco, than I thought.
 

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Wruk53- pause that order….
Looking at the pictures of the Hyang Cho, and checking the small (what I thought) MD 609 plant on my balcony, it looks like labels were switched.
The plant I’ve been identifying as Hyang Cho looks a LOT like MD609 on the nwtseeds website. And the small MD609 plant that I thought flowered early due to its small pot size, looks a lot more like the Hyang Cho on the same site.
This is a serious possibility, as they were seeded at the same time,View attachment 52317
No worries, there were a few more varieties that I I've been wanting to try anyway. I placed an order for xanthi, yellow pryor and hyang cho. I might try to grow a few of each this winter, see how they do. Seeds are the least expensive part of growing.
 

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The Hyang Cho looks like it yields like a small oriental variety. Probably no more than a half ounce in containers.
The MD609 is far bigger, but its low nicotine content (3% total alkaloids), makes it fairly useless to me. My neighbors will enjoy some MD609 cigarettes blended with various orientals that can’t be found commercially, though.
Looks like it’s a competition between SSBM and One Sucker for next year….
Kids room MD609:
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The Hyang Cho looks like it yields like a small oriental variety. Probably no more than a half ounce in containers.
The MD609 is far bigger, but its low nicotine content (3% total alkaloids), makes it fairly useless to me. My neighbors will enjoy some MD609 cigarettes blended with various orientals that can’t be found commercially, though.
Looks like it’s a competition between SSBM and One Sucker for next year….
Kids room MD609:
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How are the Hyang Cho spaced traditionally? I’ve been reading about the spacing affecting the yeild but also the flavor of different varieties. Would be interesting to see how the yields and flavors vary between different types of tobacco by experimenting with the spacing. Anyways those are some tasty looking plants.
 

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How are the Hyang Cho spaced traditionally? I’ve been reading about the spacing affecting the yeild but also the flavor of different varieties. Would be interesting to see how the yields and flavors vary between different types of tobacco by experimenting with the spacing. Anyways those are some tasty looking plants.
I recently found Hyang Cho is sun cured.
I found (and lost) a pdf file on spacing of the tobacco, but I can’t remember what it was.

 

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During the heat of the day, a whopping 75F here in Germany, my plants wilt. I believe they are doing it to conserve water. This means growth comes to a halt as the
Plant tries to slow itself down, so it won’t dry out. The soil can be just watered, and still they do this. My active hydroponic system (a fancy way of saying fertilizer water in a bucket with roots hanging in the water and an air pump bubbling air constantly through the water) does NOT show this effect. If the flavor is good, I might go with a bit more hydroponic growing next year. (Sorry for the hasty shots- busy schedule) top: hand watered hydroponic- just like the soil plants. Bottom: active hydroponic.View attachment 52267View attachment 52268
I have been wondering about this, becouse I have a couple that do this.
 

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In ground Kentucky has flowered, and been topped. (Don’t mind the wilted MD609: it was just watered, and being dramatic. It fully recovered)
More One Sucker transplants. Have at least 6 more containers, just waiting on a shipment of soil and coconut coir (tomorrow, hopefully).IMG_0272.jpegIMG_0273.jpeg
 

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I grew Little Dutch last year and I found them to put out suckers like crazy, so much so that when I stalk harvested them by keeping just one sucker from nearest the base I was able to get a second crop.
Well, that might throw a wrench into my plans- was planning on replanting Vallejano in those containers.
I do want as much Little Dutch as I can grow, though.
The story that German farmers brought the seeds from Germany to the US, and I brought the seeds back has a lot of German smokers interested in trying it.
I haven’t noticed a lot of suckering from either the Little Dutch or the (actual) small Hyang Cho. The Drosgi Black Blue suckered like any other rustica- even have to sucker them as they are stalk curing.
How was the sucker crop? (I’ve read on the forum that only Prilep produces a worthwhile sucker crop.)
 
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