wruk53
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Good deal! Looking forward to it!
My window and balcony: 2024
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Skafidr
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I'm afraid of the leaves drying green instead of curing, so this is why I'm leaving them on the plant until they yellow (first time growing for me). I may have lost some leaves due to that, though.
Would picking the leaves green and hanging them to cure (or towel them) instead have any difference in terms of end result on the tobacco?
WillQuantrill
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Welp, I've heard enough. OS will be in my dip garden next year so I can compare it to my SSBM from this year.
Hope you don’t mind me asking a stupid question but what is a puro snus? I’m more of a cigarette smoker who has recently picked up a pipe so idk much about snus.
A puro is one single variety, rather than a blend of two or more.
Ah so like smoking a pure Virginia or another out of a pipe. Thanks for the explanation knuck.
Pot size matters, but, when using purchased soil, amendments, etc. it might not be cost effective.
Right side- 10 liter container Kentucky.
Left side- 25 liter container Kentucky.
Same soil mix, same fertilizer, same planting and harvest time. They both have 10 leaves, small plant leaves are about 2/3 the size of the big pot. Considering prices for soil, etc. planting 2 plants in smaller containers is better yielding than one plant taking up twice as much soil. Granted, this is only for those limited to containers. For those wanting good sized cigar wrapper leaves- bigger containers may be desirable.
Right side- 10 liter container Kentucky.
Left side- 25 liter container Kentucky.
Same soil mix, same fertilizer, same planting and harvest time. They both have 10 leaves, small plant leaves are about 2/3 the size of the big pot. Considering prices for soil, etc. planting 2 plants in smaller containers is better yielding than one plant taking up twice as much soil. Granted, this is only for those limited to containers. For those wanting good sized cigar wrapper leaves- bigger containers may be desirable.
That cost equation ignores your labor. Fewer leaves = lower labor cost. Just a thought.
Bob
True- trade offs. Economics is like life- there is no “right answer”- there is only a choice that is more suitable for given people in given circumstances.
For me- chewing tobacco is my goal, so yield is best served with more, smaller plants, rather than a few larger ones.
(I always find space for extra seedlings, somewhere.)
As for labor- I enjoy it, so it isn’t really a cost I worry about.
Though I do seem to be running short on space for the harvest…..
For me- chewing tobacco is my goal, so yield is best served with more, smaller plants, rather than a few larger ones.
(I always find space for extra seedlings, somewhere.)
As for labor- I enjoy it, so it isn’t really a cost I worry about.
Though I do seem to be running short on space for the harvest…..
Olmstead
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Those are some real beauties you've got there! Great work.
A hydroponic Kentucky. Just a plant started in normal seedling mix, put in a net pot with perlite and vermiculite (50/50).
When it was topped 19 days ago, I changed the nutrient solution to a normal full strength batch….the leaves have grown massively- as big as the 25 liter container Kentucky grown in soil. (Notable difference in stalk thickness!). They have also darkened considerably. Deep emerald green. No idea how to ripen the plant, without putting into nutrient deficiency.
It’s possible I may just have to try for some candela…
When it was topped 19 days ago, I changed the nutrient solution to a normal full strength batch….the leaves have grown massively- as big as the 25 liter container Kentucky grown in soil. (Notable difference in stalk thickness!). They have also darkened considerably. Deep emerald green. No idea how to ripen the plant, without putting into nutrient deficiency.
It’s possible I may just have to try for some candela…
Most commercial tobacco is lapsing into nutrient deficiency by the end of the growing season. Late-season nitrogen supplement tends to delay ripening. [I have no intuitive grasp of hydroponic tobacco growing.]
Bob
That’s gonna take some time, if i don’t swap out the nutrients with plain water…
By the way- what varieties were used for candela wrappers during its popularity in the US market? Any ideas at the ripeness level for the harvest? I would think ripe, but before changes to the color?
(And i don’t suppose anyone knows the variety grown for the green Kashubian snuff found around Poland?)
Candela is a process that was used on just about every cigar wrapper variety, world-wide. The time of priming the leaf is the same as for flue-curing—barely mature, but still fully green.
Bob
Olmstead
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This is the same for me, although I am making dry nasal snuff with most of mine. While I love pipe tobacco, I have plenty of it, and prefer aged Virginia over Burley. I'm growing Burley.
Some of the varieties you're growing are really interesting; haven't heard of Hyang Cho before.
Your Kentucky Burley hydroponic plant is really healthy! I'm thankful to have plenty of space for a garden and decent soil, but you are most definitely making the best of a small space.
Strangely enough- it is called “Kentucky” here in Europe, but it isn’t a burley. It’s more like a dark cigar variety. I believe it’s the type used to make dry Italian cigars.
I grew it last year, because it was all I had (from Amazon.de). I have more and better strains, but I wanted to see how it did, again, before I tried something new.
I e read that over-ripening Virginia on the plant makes a stronger flavor. I might try it with a windowsill plant. Might be something for you to try, too.
I’m making the most of the space I have, much to the annoyance of my wife….
