Boboro
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It seams climate cnange is workin backards. But with gov. grants that can be easyly explained.
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Update. A few of the plants recovered overnight. Many didn't and of the ones that didn't, several showed signs of sun scald this evening on the lower leaves. I pulled those leaves off since they were mainly lugs anyway. I was a little surprised that the sun scald was limited to the lower leaves. I've seen more curve balls this year than any single major leage baseball player can throw in a single season. Wow. It just goes to show what can happen once you begin feeling a little safe and complacent. The main thing I've learned this year is that there is no such thing as covering all the bases.
DGBAMA
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I have learned that tobacco has an amazing ability to overcome adversity.
workhorse_01
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Was the whole leaf scalded or just a few spots? I had a few leaves scald in 2" x 3" spots, but left them and they continued to grow around the spots.
It was on the end of the lugs that were laying on the ground. It had the kind of look that would turn to rot very quickly so I just pulled them off, there weren't that many. I just got back from the patch and the wilted down ones are looking rough. I made the mistake earlier in the year of bottom watering a tray of dry seedlings in the sun and they never did recover. They just wilted down and rotted. These plants have that same look about them but I hope they are old enough to recover. Wild, just wild. They were looking so good. It's been overcast all day, but still no improvement. I don't know how a farmer even makes a crop of this stuff. Two days of mid day showers just wrecked them.
Pictures of the latest calamity. These plants were beautiful until I got two days in a row of mid day showers with hot sun before and after. Then they deflated faster than Leverheads blow up sex doll with the faulty air valve. The really interesting thing I noticed is that every single one of the wilted plants has wrapped the growth bud with the top two leaves. I find it impressive that the plant could take that kind of protective action.
Stogie's poor Djebel 174. I moved the back up seedling from the starter tray to a 6" pot. I'll container grow it if these don't recover.
This is a flue cure variety. Reams 158. It's a very beautiful plant.
Swarr filler. A cigar filler variety. Another gorgeous plant.
Stogie's poor Djebel 174. I moved the back up seedling from the starter tray to a 6" pot. I'll container grow it if these don't recover.
This is a flue cure variety. Reams 158. It's a very beautiful plant.
Swarr filler. A cigar filler variety. Another gorgeous plant.
marksctm
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Now that's funny!
I'v never used the ground cover, I would think it would cook the roots and not let the soil breath.
I know it's made to breath, in normal conditions, but to me it's like having a wet shirt on when it's hot and steamy out.
Hell! try removing it off some and see if anything changes, might not but it can't hurt.
Just an idea.
The biggest problem I've seen with the fabric is that in wet years like this one, it holds the moisture in and the plants with the fabric stay wetter than the plants without it. It did cause more problems due to all the rain, but in a dry year, holding moisture would be a good thing. I pulled the fabric off the wrapper variety patch that was frenching and it has dried out a lot better. (The wrapper patch is in the shade which compounded the drying out problem) Today I noticed normal looking leaves being produced above the leaves that had frenching. I'm hoping the dry days we've had and the removal of the fabric turned that patch around.
The wilted plants above were looking outstanding until I got some mid day showers. You know how you always hear not to water in the heat of the day, I think this was the same reaction. Day before yesterday it rained for an hour in the middle of the day. For 30 minutes during that rain the sun was shining. It was just a small cloud that sat on top of me for an hour. Then the cloud moved on and the sun came out full force.
BarG
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Yep, You'll be in tobacco heaven once all thats cured. Nice grow Knucks!
Reading yours and Leverheads and Fisherman's Grow Blogs (plus the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders) have me wanting to move to Texas!
skychaser
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I'd rip that fabric out of there. Go old school and use a hoe to kill weeds. It also helps keep the soil loose and airiated. Mound it up towards the plants as you go and make a "hill" down the row.
Your Reams looks good though. I grew that a couple years ago. It's a heavy producer with nice large leaves. The leaves are dense on the stalk it only gets about 5' high. Good resistance to wind and tipping. Cures easy too. Oxford 207 is very similar.
Your Reams looks good though. I grew that a couple years ago. It's a heavy producer with nice large leaves. The leaves are dense on the stalk it only gets about 5' high. Good resistance to wind and tipping. Cures easy too. Oxford 207 is very similar.
Boboro
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The heat would kill ya. If they ever get Austin under control It will be the place Ill send the grand children to.
Knucks,
All of the wilted plants seems to have healthy growth tips. They'll recover. The wilted leaf would end up as midling lug anyway. You've got a long season, and plenty of time for those babies to take off.
Bob
All of the wilted plants seems to have healthy growth tips. They'll recover. The wilted leaf would end up as midling lug anyway. You've got a long season, and plenty of time for those babies to take off.
Bob
Boboro
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I wood get rid of the ground cover to. Stir up the ground around them. They mite be smotherin from rain packed dirt.
leverhead
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Somebody's messin' with you, it's not hot here. Don't hold your breath waiting for Austin to get cleaned up again.
The plants are not drowning. It's been fairly dry for a week. They've survived long periods of rain with no problem, this particular patch drains very well. The two showers we had were very short and certainly not frog stranglers. It was the timing of the rain that caused the problem. Hot 90F sunny day with a shower right in the middle of the day, followed by more hot sunny 90F sun. This happened two days in a row. The first day they wilted down some, but the second day really deflated them. I think they'll be ok. This was just a case where the light at the end of the tunnel happened to have a train attached to it. I'm just reporting the good and the bad.
DGBAMA
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Some cool days coming should give them time to recover.
I think they'll be fine also. Did you see how the upper leaves wrapped themselves around and over the growth bud? All the wilted plants did this. I thought that was fascinating.
A 5' flue cure with heavy production would be a perfect plant for me to grow on a yearly basis. I could handle the topping and bagging no problem. I'll be paying close attention to the taste and sample on this one. The Dixie Bright and Mcnair 944 are coming on strong also. They look very similar to the Reams right now, but I don't know how tall they can get. Did you like the taste of the Reams? I'm also watching the GL939 and GL747 very closely. They were planted later than the others, but are looking very nice and strong. The Ostrolist B-27-47 PI 321712 (a Bulgarian flue cure) was interesting, but it's one of the wilted ones. I think they'll all be ok.
skychaser
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..."Did you like the taste of the Reams?"..
Yeah, it was pretty light and mild. Typical air cured bright leaf taste. Very good for a cigarette blend.
My Dixie Bright 27 is 7' tall now and 3/4 in bloom. Really nice looking plants. I grew it last year too. Reams 158 is shorter and broader. It blooms a week or 10 days earlier than Dixie Bright if I recall.
Gold Leaf 939 is becoming my favorite bright leaf Virginian type. I grew it last year and was pretty impressed by it. This years plants are fantastic looking. It has very uniform growth, is a heavy producer and turns a golden yellow as it ripens. Every plant in the row came into bloom in a week at 65 days average. They are all right at 6' now to the top of the flower and just starting to ripen. It also stands up well to heavy wind and rain. Last weekend we had big thunder storms. Lots of rain, wind and a lightning show like I never saw before. The next morning we had about 400 plants down. Spent half the day standing them back up. But not one of the Gold Leafs went down. I'd like to try the GL747 and see how they compare.
Yeah, it was pretty light and mild. Typical air cured bright leaf taste. Very good for a cigarette blend.
My Dixie Bright 27 is 7' tall now and 3/4 in bloom. Really nice looking plants. I grew it last year too. Reams 158 is shorter and broader. It blooms a week or 10 days earlier than Dixie Bright if I recall.
Gold Leaf 939 is becoming my favorite bright leaf Virginian type. I grew it last year and was pretty impressed by it. This years plants are fantastic looking. It has very uniform growth, is a heavy producer and turns a golden yellow as it ripens. Every plant in the row came into bloom in a week at 65 days average. They are all right at 6' now to the top of the flower and just starting to ripen. It also stands up well to heavy wind and rain. Last weekend we had big thunder storms. Lots of rain, wind and a lightning show like I never saw before. The next morning we had about 400 plants down. Spent half the day standing them back up. But not one of the Gold Leafs went down. I'd like to try the GL747 and see how they compare.
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