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I have only had to water my trays twice since placing germinations in cells inside my greenhouse and that was only a 1/4" deep. My soil this year has been working great for wicking and maintaining moisture throughout the cell. It has been cloudy 3/4 of the time since seeding on 3-13.On sunny days I have to open the door to keep temps from rising into near 100 degrees but most of the time just the louver vent is open. I may not need my shade structure this year afterall.
 

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I'm not sure what was turning the leaf white, too much sun, too much heat off the black tailgate, too cool at night (in the low 40's), or staying wet too long. The plants weren't wilting down, just the leaves were turning white and they looked generally unhappy. After I moved them inside it only took a few hours for them to perk back up and look better.
 

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I picked a bad time to move my plants outside. We are getting a lot of rain and when it's not raining the RH was in the 80's. The soil just would not dry out and my leaves were turning white. Our forecast for the next four days is rain with clouds for the next ten days at least. I put them back inside under the grow lights and on the heat mat. I have one flat of seedlings that I planted late and left inside. They have already caught up to the plants I moved outside a few days ago. Oh, well. I'll give it another shot when the weather is better. Good intentions, bad timing.

I know how your feel'n! Weather here is iffy also. Still too cold at night to keep them outside. The forecast is a rainy week ahead for us too. Did you figure out why they may have turned white?
 

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I'm not sure what was turning the leaf white, too much sun, too much heat off the black tailgate, too cool at night (in the low 40's), or staying wet too long. The plants weren't wilting down, just the leaves were turning white and they looked generally unhappy. After I moved them inside it only took a few hours for them to perk back up and look better.
The sun turned some of My plants white last year as in the past. It only did that when I left them out to long hardening them for the move out side. It didn't take long for them to adjust. I just left them out longer each time.
 

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I know how your feel'n! Weather here is iffy also. Still too cold at night to keep them outside. The forecast is a rainy week ahead for us too. Did you figure out why they may have turned white?

The sun turned some of My plants white last year as in the past. It only did that when I left them out to long hardening them for the move out side. It didn't take long for them to adjust. I just left them out longer each time.

I would say Mad is right. I got side tracked and left them out most of the day one time. It was too early to do that.
 

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I lose one try. The seedlings was out in the morning sun until almost one o'clock. They become white. All other seedlings was behind the glass on all day sun and nothing hurts them. So it must be ultraviolet rays. To soon outside without hardening on partial shade will kill them. In the morning I say only two to three hours will not hurt them. Than I do things around and forget. It is almost one week and seedlings didn't recover. Few leaves drop off, some died, few will maybe survive. We learning on hard way. Peasants.

If you run out of seeds let me know. L
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I lose one try. The seedlings was out in the morning sun until almost one o'clock. They become white. All other seedlings was behind the glass on all day sun and nothing hurts them. So it must be ultraviolet rays. To soon outside without hardening on partial shade will kill them. In the morning I say only two to three hours will not hurt them. Than I do things around and forget. It is almost one week and seedlings didn't recover. Few leaves drop off, some died, few will maybe survive. We learning on hard way. Peasants.

If you run out of seeds let me know. L
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I caught them in time, only a few leaves had white ends on them. I trimmed off all the white part of the leaves and moved them back inside until all this rainy weather is over. They are already looking much better. For some reason, the cigar varieties looked worse than the others. That was interesting.
 

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I don't know how Larry does it with all those acres year after year. I hope this isn't another rainy year like last year. Growing soybeans was a cake walk compared to tobacco.
He has a big set of gonads, to do this for a living.
I never had white leaves before but my time is coming also.
Good save Knucks.
 

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Man, oh, man, the past two days I have been busy as ....

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Yesterday I sanded off last years varietal names off my wooden stakes on the belt sander so I can reuse the stakes. Then I sprayed the yard with 2-4D to kill the broadleaf weeds, wild onion, dandelion, etc. that were trying to take over. My centipede is still dormant but it will be waking up pretty soon. I was lucky I had my ...

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to go on the four wheeler.


Then today, we hauled two big loads of three year old horse crap. I put one load on the patch and another one off to the side with the cow manure. Bama is going to bring a trailer and take home some of the horse poo. This is Bama's pile.

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This is my pile before I smeared it around on the patch.

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After I smeared crap all over the place I turned it under with the tiller.

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After that, I turned over my compost pile of cow manure and hay. The hay is rotting pretty well. My brother in law has some rabbits with a blue million red wigglers under them in the rabbit poo. I'm going to add a wad of worms to the pile. I also know a guy with a tree service, I'm going to get a load of wood chips dumped down here to rot this year so I can add it next year.

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Then my father shanghai'd me and put me to work putting out lime, fertilizer and grass seed at the apartments. I'm just glad I had my ...

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hooked up to the four wheeler.
 

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My seedlings have recovered from the slight sun scald so I've moved them back outside to harden off. They are on an eastern facing porch right now, they get about three hours of morning sun. After a few days here, I'll move them back to the tailgate on my black truck and slowly introduce them to full sun for the whole day.

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Knuck,

Is that hive thriving? I have 3 myself, that are in need of some occupants!

Nice looking plants by the way.

Yes, they were working pretty hard today. Funny thing though, they disappeared for a few weeks and then came back. I'm not sure it's the same swarm though, cause these suckers will sting you and we had the others ones pretty tame. We lost one hive and need to find some occupants for it also.
 

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Yes, they were working pretty hard today. Funny thing though, they disappeared for a few weeks and then came back. I'm not sure it's the same swarm though, cause these suckers will sting you and we had the others ones pretty tame. We lost one hive and need to find some occupants for it also.

What type were they before? Maybe they mixed with farrow bees, then came back??

I miss not having them around. I lost all 3 hives a couple of years ago and really haven't had a chance to get back going again. A couple of days ago, I ordered a package and they are supposed to be here around May 8th.

Dang Knuck, we have alot in common. Tobacco, same ATV (almost) and bees. If I only lived in Alabama!!
 

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They were Italian bees. Very gentle before. When we get some more bees, they will be Italians also. There's so dang many things that can go wrong with them these days we can't hardly keep up with it. Back in the 70's and 80's we never had a problem with anything until that blight came along and killed all the honey bees in the area. Bees took care of themselves back then, all we had to do was steal a little honey ever now and then. Now... wow.

Land is still pretty reasonable down here. Come on down and welcome!
 

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until that blight came along and killed all the honey bees in the area.

That happen to me 22 years ago I lost around 20 bees house like yours some double sized in 1 year I lost all my bees
I've never started again things still packed till today. recover houses, honey machines, etc now here in EU the new problem are Asiatic bees
 

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That happen to me 22 years ago I lost around 20 bees house like yours some double sized in 1 year I lost all my bees
I've never started again things still packed till today. recover houses, honey machines, etc now here in EU the new problem are Asiatic bees

I think Jitterbugdude built a kiln out of honey bee hives for fermenting tobacco. I will try to find the post unless he wants to play nice and find it for me. ;)
 
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