Making Black Cavendish Pipe Tobacco

[Mad Oshea]

The best water I found was KANGEN Water, It brings out the flavors well. Very pure and the acidity electricaly changed.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I have two questions. Has anyone ever made black cavendish out of oriental tobacco? I was imagining in my head taking black samsun to a deep brown, and my mouth started to water.

The other question is, has anyone ever put something for flavorin the water you produce the steam with?

 

[Smokin Harley]

So, you're saying that once I raise my first crop of tobacco ...lets say i take some of the Little Dutch which is said to be used for pipe blends ...and I air dry it ,then simply steam it for hours ,drained ,dried,press, cut , rub ,etc,etc.It will then be considered in your description,a Little Dutch Cavendish? (COOL!)
How then could or should I flavor it , say Vanilla, Cherry or Bourbon, in the steam water or added at what point ?

 

[deluxestogie]

I would not flavor it. Finish it and smoke it first, to see what you've got. You might like it better than food-flavored tobacco.

If you decide you'd like to flavor it then, just mix up your flavor oil in some vodka, and mist it onto the shred. Allow it to dry.

Bob

 

[Smokin Harley]

Oh I would definitely try it unflavored first. I'm just thinking ahead . I mix store bought black and cherry cavendish 50/50...last batch I mixed I used a pinch of the "Labrador" Erik Nording hunter blend ,has a nice mellow light caramel hazelnut .Excellent for after dinner .

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I would not flavor it. Finish it and smoke it first, to see what you've got. You might like it better than food-flavored tobacco.

If you decide you'd like to flavor it then, just mix up your flavor oil in some vodka, and mist it onto the shred. Allow it to dry.

Bob

Thanks Bob, One more question. Some of my tobacco is through the initial cure. I plan on doing a pilone or heated box style fermentation afterwards to the lot. I harvested about 30 pounds. I imagine that will equate to about three pounds of cured tobacco, maybe not enough for a pilone. However, I was wondering with Black Cavendish, if fermentation is necessary. Does the steaming remove the nitrogen compounds and such?

 

[deluxestogie]

...with Black Cavendish, if fermentation is necessary.

My black Cavendish batches have been made from leaf that was only color-cured.

Bob

 

[Shu Tang Kuo]

I followed Bob's procedures to make my black Cavendish , so here is my results, thanks Bob.




pressed to brick. I plan to keep it in save place for one year.


By using this colander was very easy to control the processes, every 10 mins i turned the leaves over, to balance every leaf has steamed well.
I used this colander to steam dumplings at home. MAYBE you can find it in Chinatown.

 

[Knucklehead]

Nice job with the Cavendish Shu Tang Kuo.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Your tobacco looks great. Nice photos too. Caution though. It looks moist enough to mold in those photos. I learned the hard way with a black Cavendish rope I made. Mind you I wrapped it in Fire cured wrapper which doesn't breath very well, but I left the ropes out for a few weeks, and it still wasn't dry enough. I lost two thirds of it

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that I was used to propylene glycol hydrated tobacco. If my natural tobacco feels the same as my PG tobacco, it's too moist.

 

[Shu Tang Kuo]

Thank you Knucklehead.

 

[Shu Tang Kuo]

Thank you for your information, Voodoo, The way i did to take the steamed leaves to the sunshine for few hours, then put it in the bag stored in the chamber room again with the temp 50 degree C and moist 50 for a week.
i start to blend my tobacco with Viginia and the black Cavendish plus (Jim Beam Bourbon and vanilla).see the photos. this is what i made.

 

[Knucklehead]

That is some really nice looking Cavendish. Great job.

 

[Sid.Stavros]

Black Cavendish is one of my favourites,i love to smoke it in the morning and especially when the weather is bad.I have "dedicated" about 32 pipes for this type.

 

[ProfessorPangloss]

Does the bourbon/vanilla casing inhibit mold growth or encourage? I know that if it were just water, that would be an issue, but what about alcohol-based flavors in reasonable amounts?

 

[deluxestogie]

The ethanol mostly (if not entirely) evaporates.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

The ethanol mostly (if not entirely) evaporates.

Bob

I believe it doesn't take much to get it to evaporate, but in theory, at STP, alcohol stabilizes at 75.5%. This is why 151 proof alcohol seems like such a random number.

 

[sansonPR]

This is the Black Cavendish did I cooked today using my unknown Havana and with the pressure cooker method from jonhlee1933, 6 hrs of steaming . There are 5 leaves one each from 3,4,5,6 and 7 primings.


Original leaf, after 1/2 hour, after 2 hours and after 6 hrs

 

[Knucklehead]

This is the Black Cavendish did I cooked today using my unknown Havana and with the pressure cooker method from jonhlee1933, 6 hrs of steaming . There are 5 leaves one each from 3,4,5,6 and 7 primings.
Original leaf, after 1/2 hour, after 2 hours and after 6 hrs

That is some beautiful black Cavendish. Congratulations. After it has had time to settle down, please let us know how it smokes.