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Radagast Grow blog attempt 2020

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I have the same sense of flue curing locking in the sugar content. Yes the so called 'dark Virginia' thing seems like uncharted territory so it's fun to play with. Have you tried flue curing your staghorn? Some days I wish I grew more straight up cigar strains. Other days I feel like I wasted space where I should have grown nothing but flue cure. Sometimes I yearn for the perfect pipe, and often, the perfect pipe is a cigar. It may all boil down to just simply enjoying what I've got.
No, I don't have a flue cure chamber/kiln. Everything I do is air cured or sun cured. I have not tried sun curing staghorn in any quantities since I like the color it turns when air cured and don't know if sun curing would do much for it flavor wise. I might have to try sun curing one of my small old seed plants that are still hanging around the backyard for fun.

Since I'm more into cigars I was kind of feeling the same way about the orientals being wasted space until I tried one. Now, I'm glad I have a wide variety of options to choose from. Even though it's probably non conventional for standard cigars I can see the possibility of getting some pretty uniques tastes and aromas from using a wide variety of tobacco. I like variety, I have bought mass quantities of cigar sampler packs over the years yet very few boxes of a single type of cigar. That's what is fun about WLT and being able to grow your own - so many new things to try. I suppose for a pipe smoker there would even be more blending and flavoring possibilities.
 

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Yay!

There is a continuum of assorted characteristics among all the "market classes" of tobacco. Dark Virginia; Red Virginia; Virginia Red! These terms become less and less helpful as the number of them proliferates.

I believe...not sure...that "Dark Virginia" is a dark air-cure/dark fire-cure category sort of. (Virginia is not only a category of tobacco, but also the name of a geographic location that historically grew several different categories of tobacco.) Like @Tutu's "dark sun-cured", it may or may not be an accurately descriptive term, but inserting it into a 19th century lexicon of USDA market classes adds to the terminology chaos.

SUMMARY: don't have a clue about "Dark Virginia".

Bob
Thanks Bob. That's still helpful even if the naming chaos doesn't allow for a definite answer:)
Do you have any experience/personal preference with staghorn vs Goose creek red?
 

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This is interesting:
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An almost cured stalk of Harrow Velvet throwing off a desperate, sneaky blossom in one final attempt at passing on its dna. Kinda feel sorry for it, so I'm going to let it happen. Maybe I'll smoke the dried flowers.
 

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This is interesting:
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An almost cured stalk of Harrow Velvet throwing off a desperate, sneaky blossom in one final attempt at passing on its dna. Kinda feel sorry for it, so I'm going to let it happen. Maybe I'll smoke the dried flowers.
I have a Connecticut broadleaf stalk curing that flowered and actually set seed while hanging. These plants are weeds;)
I tried some dried flowers last winter and wasn't real impressed. I think mentally I was expecting more of a floral flavor.
 

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Back in 2012, I think, I saved a quart bag of blossoms for each variety that I grew, separated by variety. Over the years, I've tried them, kilned them, aged them more, etc. They are smokable in a pipe, but not very impressive. The best (most flavorful) came from Little Dutch. My conclusion is that it was a fun excursion, but not worth the effort.

One year, I stripped then bagged leaf auricle remnants that cling to the stalks when you prime the leaf. I mixed all the varieties together, aged them, kilned them. Meh.

Bob
 

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I had to bust open the seed pods to make sure I wasn't mistaken about the buds on the stalk harvested plants setting seed. The pods are a little small and probably should have been allowed to dry down more but all three were able to set seed. Not a huge amount of seed, but still impressive for the plant not knowing it was supposed to be dead. I know at least two of the buds were hanging for close to 4 or 5 days before they began flowering. These plants are amazing.
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I don't know how but this Prilep 66-9/7 stalk, which was cut down in September 2020, now curing/aging in my laundry room, is STILL ALIVE. While not exactly thriving, it has found the gumption to form little bud heads, (harbour a bunch of aphids), and crank itself towards what little bit of light it can sense. Amazing.
 

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I don't know how but this Prilep 66-9/7 stalk, which was cut down in September 2020, now curing/aging in my laundry room, is STILL ALIVE. While not exactly thriving, it has found the gumption to form little bud heads, (harbour a bunch of aphids), and crank itself towards what little bit of light it can sense. Amazing.
Uh Oh, sounds like zombie tobacco! Fire is the only way to to stop it. Better smoke it:oops:
 
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