Oldfella
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Damn there's another theory down the drain. Maybe someone else with more know how will spot something. Goo pics though. If I come up with anything else I'll let you know. It was worth a shot.
Oldfella
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It is possible that the single wilted leaf is caused by wireworm, which burrows into the stalk near the base, and leaves a visible hole there. Sometimes a stink bug can cause a single leaf to wilt, and the leaf may or may not recover. Certain bacteria can infect the stalk at the point where a sucker has been removed, and cause some wilting.
From the photo, I can't tell. Each season, I have an upper leaf or two on a few different tobacco plants wilt like that. Most often, they recover. But I have never done anything about it, other than observe. In the absence of pesticides, all sorts of minor issues will come up, and usually require no particular action, so long as they are localized.
Bob
From the photo, I can't tell. Each season, I have an upper leaf or two on a few different tobacco plants wilt like that. Most often, they recover. But I have never done anything about it, other than observe. In the absence of pesticides, all sorts of minor issues will come up, and usually require no particular action, so long as they are localized.
Bob
Thanks for trying buddy
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I agree with your worm in the stem that's what I was looking for, a hole. However all I could see where some little fly things.
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Hopefully it will be an isolated thing. Didn't pick a sucker there and sure didn't notice anything else out of the ordinary. Ahh plants. What are ya gonna do y'know what I mean? Thanks for the support.
The hole from a wire worm appears at the base of the stalk, just above the ground. Without using imidacloprid, or some other pesticide, there is no specific treatment or prevention. Knowing is always fun, but sometimes offers little in the way of actionable information. Like knowing how the rings of Saturn formed.
Bob
I already had this kind of wilting on some plants.
Most of the time it was after some very hot and dry day, where the whole plant was very droppy for a good part of the day. The next day all the leaves are fine again, except one leave. I wondered if this was some sort of defense process for the plant to abandon one leaf to help the others to survive. As if the plant was thinking : I don't have enough water for all my leaves, so I will forget the most thirsty one and will feed the others.
Most of the time it was after some very hot and dry day, where the whole plant was very droppy for a good part of the day. The next day all the leaves are fine again, except one leave. I wondered if this was some sort of defense process for the plant to abandon one leaf to help the others to survive. As if the plant was thinking : I don't have enough water for all my leaves, so I will forget the most thirsty one and will feed the others.
It has been really hot and dry, the day that happened got up to 33C. You are probably right, thanks for that!
I smoked some of the young leaves that cured themselves on the stalk/in the dirt. They taste like they are, dirty. I can't say it's fair to compare them all to each other at this stage being that some were higher on their stalks and some cured better than others, some are a touch green and some were all covered in schpugahtz.. Just for fun though:
My first tiny bowl was Yellow Twist Bud. It was most reminiscent of actual tobacco. I could sense a whiff of cigar in it, very pleasant. Then I tried some goose creek red. Boy it's strong and actually tasty, and oh, so very strong. I enjoyed that first tiny pipe of it. Spicy, I might say 'nicotiney' and even with my unrefined palate I thought I noticed in it a similar astringency as with strong tea and pure Virginia. This is something I like. On to the Prilep. Prilep leaves smell sooooooo good on the stalk when rubbed I just had to think they'd be dynamite. Not so much. I know.. it's not a good indicator of how clean, un-schpugahtz-covered, cured mature leaf will taste and that's good because it just wasn't delicious at this time. Notes of burnt newspaper and yard waste.
Had to have another bowl of gcr to cleanse my palate but I must have gotten some green in there. Not so yummy this time, it tasted like I imagine trying to smoke a green pepper, not to say that I don't like green peppers, just not much in the way of a savoury pipe. Weird how different those two bowls were.
Anyhow that's my little taste-test adventure for now. Not very scientific or anything, just a bit of fun.
My first tiny bowl was Yellow Twist Bud. It was most reminiscent of actual tobacco. I could sense a whiff of cigar in it, very pleasant. Then I tried some goose creek red. Boy it's strong and actually tasty, and oh, so very strong. I enjoyed that first tiny pipe of it. Spicy, I might say 'nicotiney' and even with my unrefined palate I thought I noticed in it a similar astringency as with strong tea and pure Virginia. This is something I like. On to the Prilep. Prilep leaves smell sooooooo good on the stalk when rubbed I just had to think they'd be dynamite. Not so much. I know.. it's not a good indicator of how clean, un-schpugahtz-covered, cured mature leaf will taste and that's good because it just wasn't delicious at this time. Notes of burnt newspaper and yard waste.
Had to have another bowl of gcr to cleanse my palate but I must have gotten some green in there. Not so yummy this time, it tasted like I imagine trying to smoke a green pepper, not to say that I don't like green peppers, just not much in the way of a savoury pipe. Weird how different those two bowls were.
Anyhow that's my little taste-test adventure for now. Not very scientific or anything, just a bit of fun.
My first bowl of mud lugs was also Yellow Twist Bud. I got a real kick from just picking a dried leaf from my plant and smoking it in my own baccy patch. Pretty cool experience. 
Your cob is so tiny that you were probably smoking a few nasal hairs with each puff.
Smoking mud-cured leaf is always fun. I smoked a mud-cured leaf of Sacred Cornplanter rustica, and it tasted wonderful. Mature, cured leaves from the rest of the plant, no matter which of the many curing methods I tried on them, consistently tasted awful.
Do keep in mind that those bottom leaves are the absolute lowest in nicotine on the plant. If the mud lugs are strong, watch out!
Bob
Smoking mud-cured leaf is always fun. I smoked a mud-cured leaf of Sacred Cornplanter rustica, and it tasted wonderful. Mature, cured leaves from the rest of the plant, no matter which of the many curing methods I tried on them, consistently tasted awful.
Do keep in mind that those bottom leaves are the absolute lowest in nicotine on the plant. If the mud lugs are strong, watch out!
Bob
I was due for a trim anyway. I think those little cobs are meant for decorating snowmen, but why should they have all the fun? As for the strength of the gcr lugs they could have been from up the vine a bit, or maybe they were soaked in fertilizer..
It's a nice deal! I also enjoyed it. A bit of leaf from my yard, what more can I ask for.My first bowl of mud lugs was also Yellow Twist Bud. I got a real kick from just picking a dried leaf from my plant and smoking it in my own baccy patch. Pretty cool experience.
Snap off that yellow leaf, and actually hang it in direct sun, until it is cured.
Bob
Bob
Fancy looking flue-cure chamber!
For a test run, it won't matter. But for a larger batch, ignore the color of the stem and even secondary veins. Just determine adequate yellowing by the leaf lamina. Otherwise the prolonged yellowing temp will result in brown leaf at the completion of the flue-cure. Even green stems end up crispy, dark brown to black, after flue-curing.
Bob
For a test run, it won't matter. But for a larger batch, ignore the color of the stem and even secondary veins. Just determine adequate yellowing by the leaf lamina. Otherwise the prolonged yellowing temp will result in brown leaf at the completion of the flue-cure. Even green stems end up crispy, dark brown to black, after flue-curing.
Bob
Thanks for the plans!
I guess the flue cure chamber works pretty well..
I'm not sure why that gcr plant decided to terminate this leaf in a perfect lemon yellow coloured way but I'm happy I took Bob's advice. It came out looking perfect and smells even better.
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