GarryRicketson 1st grow attempt 2014

[DGBAMA]

Bursa is Tabaccum. Rustica and Tabaccum CAN cross, but only one direction (I don't remember which).

When the seed head is removed from the plant, you will get "suckers" which will also grow and go to seed.

 

[garryricketson]

Thanks, then I will definitely need to bag the Bursa when it starts to flower, because I do want that seed to be "pure",...I just about have all the seed I will need from the Rustica, but am saving more, for the same reason, either the seed bank, or if someone wants some seed,..same will apply to the Bursa, assuming I get a lot of seed and I am sure I will,...What I will also do, is when the Bursa does start to bloom, if any rustica are also blooming, or bloom, just to be safe, any seed that the Rustica produces, after the Bursa starts flowering, I will keep separate, from it all,...glad you mentioned this, I really had not given it much thought,...but I see now it is important.

When the seed head is removed from the plant, you will get "suckers" which will also grow and go to seed.

Yea, I have noticed this,..that is why I am concerned it is very likely the rustica will still produce more flowers, when the Bursa starts flowering, I will need to watch out for that,..

 

[deluxestogie]

Seed for the FTT seed bank must be adequately bagged, regardless of whether it is N. tabacum or N. rustica. Pollen from N. tabacum is capable of fertilizing N. rustica plants, though the success rate is low. Any wild-growing N. rustica within a half mile or more can cross-pollinate.

Since any single plant is likely to produce 1/4 million seeds, you may as well not save any seed from unbagged plants. Growing tobacco is too much work to spoil with hybridized seed.

Bob

 

[Knucklehead]

In one of my honey bee books, they say a honey bee can haul pollen from as far as 3 miles away. That gives a circle 6 miles in diameter with your plants in the middle. My cousin grew tobacco last year and I had no clue he was growing. He didn't know I was growing. There is only one sure fire way to avoid crosses and that is to bag all plants that you collect seed from. Who knows for sure what other people are growing in that six mile circle?

 

[garryricketson]

I got permission to plant in a new place, this will be my second grow, but still my first year,..I think it is going to work out much better here:

 

[DGBAMA]

Looks like a good spot and maybe the ground doesn't dry as fast.

 

[MarcL]

That looks good. ... I got to know. Is that a well and is the car working to turn the pump? Because, it sure seem to work well.

 

[Knucklehead]

Nice looking new spot Garry. MarcL beat me to both questions I was going to ask about the pump and the auto. I would like to have a windmill pump down at my pond.

 

[garryricketson]

That looks good. ... I got to know. Is that a well and is the car working to turn the pump? Because, it sure seem to work well.

No, the car does not run the pump, the windmill does, Yes it is a well,...I think they might have tried using the motor on the car, to run a pump, at one time,..but right now it is not working. The owner commented about that though, something like "if only we had a good motor, gas or diesel , we could pump water even when the wind is not blowing" so I got the impression that does not work at this time.
The wind mill stay running all the time, except if there is no wind, mostly to keep a stock tank full , so the cattle have water,..the "over flow", goes to the trees and toward the fields, Pretty efficient really, what water over flows, and runs out into the area where the trees are, then goes back down into the ground, eventually works its way back into the well,..

 

[ArizonaDave]

No, the car does not run the pump, the windmill does, Yes it is a well,...I think they might have tried using the motor on the car, to run a pump, at one time,..but right now it is not working. The owner commented about that though, something like "if only we had a good motor, gas or diesel , we could pump water even when the wind is not blowing" so I got the impression that does not work at this time.
The wind mill stay running all the time, except if there is no wind, mostly to keep a stock tank full , so the cattle have water,..the "over flow", goes to the trees and toward the fields, Pretty efficient really, what water over flows, and runs out into the area where the trees are, then goes back down into the ground, eventually works its way back into the well,..

An efficient pump system with low overhead, sounds good to me. You're smart to keep backup water!

 

[forumdotabaco]

if the propeller as never been changed , you are in a low wind spot,which is great, we have those here but they cant stand more than 120kh winds, that pump is about 50 years old, some people here even join them a car alternator, and they can extract 12 v from it.

 

[MarcL]

That's nice! It would be nice to see that make a come back some day, right?

 

[garryricketson]

Here is what my "grow" looks like now, :

 

[Brown Thumb]

Looks Great, they have come a long way. That new patch area is Cool also. Any Idea how deep the well is. I like it.
BT

 

[garryricketson]

Any Idea how deep the well is. I like it.

No, but it probabley is not real deep,..
The one Bursa, is 1.5 meter, the stick is 1 meter, not sure, but I think it is a little more then a "yard",..or 3 feet. any way it is almost as tall as me.
The Rustica, is producing a lot, smaller leaves, but every time I top, or remove suckers, twice as much comes back,..I did get some big leaves, But it seems like the ones with the smaller leaves ,are producing more in the long run.

 

[Brown Thumb]

I only grew Rustica one time. And gave up. Don't matter if you top it or sucker it,it laughs at you.
Thank God I still have hair to pull out of my head.

 

[DGBAMA]

Your bursa looks really happy.

 

[grgfinney]

Looks real good now after a shaky start

 

[MarcL]

Wow, ... that is nice. healthy looking.

 

[ArizonaDave]

Very very nice!