Mathaious12
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Every time I use the Olor ligero as a binder it bring a noticable chocolate flavor, and as the wrapper it becomes even more pronounced.
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Every time I use the Olor ligero as a binder it bring a noticable chocolate flavor, and as the wrapper it becomes even more pronounced.
waikikigun
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I find Sumatra to have a pretty distinct flavor. It's one of the leaves I can usually identify if it's in a cigar. Sweeter than most, for one thing.
good lookin burn on that one..
PressuredLeaf
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I’m digging the olor, the flavor definitely amped up towards the end, but still remained very mild. Interesting to hear about the chocolate, that’s one of my favorite cigar flavors. I could see this going well with a rich st andres wrapper or binder.
To be honest, I’ve never smoked the Sumatra alone. I get what you mean by sweetness, but I don’t think my palate is trained enough to pick it out. Overall I get generic “cigar” from it.
Thanks Tullius, I’m finally getting a hang for the right amount of tobacco for my mold. Also the super thin Sumatra burns like a champ.
To be honest, I’ve never smoked the Sumatra alone. I get what you mean by sweetness, but I don’t think my palate is trained enough to pick it out. Overall I get generic “cigar” from it.
Thanks Tullius, I’m finally getting a hang for the right amount of tobacco for my mold. Also the super thin Sumatra burns like a champ.
ChinaVoodoo
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That sounds distinct from the Bezuki? I have yet to try the binder.
waikikigun
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Yeah, I reckon it is. Come to think of it I have tried the WLT Bezuki, 4 or 5 years ago, and it wasn't sweetish; it was pretty neutral. The Sumatra I have is FX Smith stuff I got from Webmost a few years ago. Serves as binder, wrapper, and "garnish," for sweetening.
All of their cigars under the FX Smith label tasted sweetened. Those they made for Muniemaker were not sweetened.
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I only ever had a CT Shade corona or two. I've used various of their raw leaf, though, thanks to Webmost. Only the Sumatra, as a leaf, tasted sweetish. I can't really say the coronas did, but I'm not much of a taster.
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0.5 CV Corojo ligero, 1.25 CV Dominican seco, bound with bezuki, wrapped with Habano 2000. AN50 x 6.5 mold. I only went 2/3 of the 6.5"
result: snug draw, decent burn, heavy complex robust roast chicory light, full flavor dark chocolate, white pepper & cedar mid with some butterscotch and a touch of sweetness, deep black pepper and strong oak finish.
PressuredLeaf
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@ Mathaious12 My Dad was in town today so I thought I’d roll two cigars for us. I ended up following your olor advice. No pictures but the sticks were:
1 olor seco
1 olor ligero
1 Coro seco
Olor binder
St andres wrapper
Loved the stick, lots of baking spice and salt, with a very noticeable coco/ chocolate mid way through the stick . Great recommendation with the olor ligero binder. Probably my favorite blend so far, my dad liked it too.
Nathan Esq
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I'm glad you mentioned salt, because I've been picking up salt here and there and thought something was wrong with my tastebuds.
Mathaious12
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Glad to hear you liked it, I wish I could take full credit for that but @waikikigun turned me on to the Olor puros for first starting out rolling and blending.
A good burning binder is on my "to buy next" list as the best tasting one I have made so far is that same filler mix with the ligero as the wrapper. It had some burn issues but was worth it for the flavors. I don't think the seco binder I used burned well enough to support such a thick wrapper.
Nathan Esq
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Nice! I'm still using a paper mold with good results, will be getting a mold eventually though. I trimmed the head for the first time and wrapped. I was surprised how well formed and round it came out.
PressuredLeaf
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I definitely get salt/ mineral flavors from many commercial dom and Cuban cigars. It seems
like the olor has a bit more of it.
I had a great burn with the ligero as the binder and a rather thick st andres wrapper. I do have some wlt Sumatra binder that is thinner than tissue paper, it burns very well. Maybe a Sumatra binder and olor ligero wrapper?
MarcL
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Welcome to the club, congratulations!
GreenDragon
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A roll from earlier this week. 2 Rene seco, 2 Criollo 98 viso, 1 Criollo 98 Ligero. Good burn, but needs a little more flavor. Will roll again and try 1.5 Viso and Ligero.
ChinaVoodoo
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What wrapper did you use? Looks like a flavorful blend to me.
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