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Looking forward to trying that myself! Glad to hear your positive assessment of the Nicaraguan rosado. I have a pound of that waiting to be enjoyed!
 

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How about that. I also made one very similar to deluxe's last night. Olor binder instead of bezuki. Only four T-13 instead of five. The T-13 leaves are small, thin, flexible, and smooth. A real joy to bunch with. Being as I was only making a test stick, I didn't dampen the rosado at all. Great burn & fabulous flavor. Altogether, between the T-13, the Olor and the Rosado, I thought this stick was fairly similar to Room 101's Big Payback cigars. In fact, I ought to smoke one of those tonight to compare.

We are being treated to an availability of excellent cigar leaf, my brothers; and we ought to take advantage and stash some away.
 

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I'm curious what variety of tobacco is used to produce the Nicaragua Rosado wrapper. My guess (based on next to nothing) is that it may be sun-grown Habano that experienced an overly cloudy growing season, or perhaps was grown in the cloud forest belt of Nicaragua (some areas within 15 or 20 miles of Esteli). If anybody has an idea, please chime in.

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I'm curious what variety of tobacco is used to produce the Nicaragua Rosado wrapper. My guess (based on next to nothing) is that it may be sun-grown Habano that experienced an overly cloudy growing season, or perhaps was grown in the cloud forest belt of Nicaragua (some areas within 15 or 20 miles of Esteli). If anybody has an idea, please chime in.

Bob

me too, .. I thought it was a color. I've had some red-ish stuff going on in other leaf. With a quick searcher on "Nicaragua Rosado tobacco", it looks like your best guess may be right.
 

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me too, .. I thought it was a color. I've had some red-ish stuff going on in other leaf. With a quick searcher on "Nicaragua Rosado tobacco", it looks like your best guess may be right.

I do think the picture on the site looks like it's description name though, criollo 98.
 

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I'm curious what variety of tobacco is used to produce the Nicaragua Rosado wrapper. My guess (based on next to nothing) is that it may be sun-grown Habano that experienced an overly cloudy growing season, or perhaps was grown in the cloud forest belt of Nicaragua (some areas within 15 or 20 miles of Esteli). If anybody has an idea, please chime in.

Bob

It is grown in Esteli, but from Criollo 98 seed.

Has anyone tried the Candela wrappers yet?

Yes, it tastes like nori

I do think the picture on the site looks like it's description name though, criollo 98.

The tobacco is grown and color cured in Nicaragua and fermented in the Cibao Valley process for one year.
 

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It is grown in Esteli, but from Criollo 98 seed.

Yes, it tastes like nori

The tobacco is grown and color cured in Nicaragua and fermented in the Cibao Valley process for one year.

See that. trust the source I do.. Nori? that's promising to me. I like that stuff plain.
 

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I did ask at the local smoke shop if the green wraps were more popin and, they said it has been an even race for them there.

I have alway's figured you as a willingness to learn type Bob.
 

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The candela wrapper has almost no taste. I don't taste chlorophyll. The leaf is as thin as any high-grade CT Shade wrapper. It stretches fairly well, wraps easily, and burns to a slightly flaky gray-white ash.

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What this wrapper does is separate the aroma of the cigar from your taste buds. My tongue senses only the slight pepperiness of the filler blend. My nose knows.

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It's been likely decades since I last smoked a candela wrapped cigar (other than the thick and vegetal Big Gem that I accidentally turned into candela during my very first attempt at flue-curing). It clearly removes the experience of smoking a cigar from that of eating tasty foods, and instead provides the unaltered filler aroma.

Bob
 

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Thanks for posting that Bob. Does it have a green tint to it? In my eye it does but I am shade blind and any color off the basic colors I usually can not identify. You said no taste. Is that typical of those wrappers?
 

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Very informative, thank you Bob.
I have never smoked cigars with candela wrapper... one more thing to try one day !
 

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I can't recall if I've described the proper manner in which freshly primed, green wrapper leaf is turned into candela. No other wrappers are flue-cured.

Growers on the forum are always lamenting that some of their air-cured or sun-cured leaf has flash-dried green, which is a bad thing to happen to your tobacco. The goal is usually to keep the leaf alive, until the natural metabolic processes break-down the chlorophyll.

To make candela, you do just the opposite. You begin with freshly primed, green, living leaf, then kill it with heat (typically above 104°F) as rapidly as possible. You want to flash-dry it green. Then the flue temp is ramped-up to completely dry the leaf. The 165°F of flue-curing is probably never reached, in order to avoid an intolerably brittle stem. But it surely is taken to at least 150°F, to remove the primary oxidase enzyme.

The bad news is that, unless you are growing a very fine and thin, shade-grown leaf, the candela that it can make will be fairly unappetizing.

Bob

EDIT: I'm smoking a candela-wrapped, toro-size cigar that is mostly WLT Piloto Cubano viso, with a leaf of WLT Corojo seco. The nicotine potency seems about 20% less than I would expect from such a filler blend. Maybe the candela is just tricking me, but I suspect that its nicotine content is considerably lower than that of many of the darker wrappers.
 

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I'm glad you posted this Bob. I doubt the candela is for me. I like the heavy nicotine wrappers. I'm sure there is a place for these with someone wanting a lower nicotine product. However, I'd like to at least try one before I write it off. Maybe I'll request a sample from wlt next time I order anything.
 
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