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I was just reading the "Burn Issues" page and saw that you were having issues with the oscuro y rico wrapper? Did that ever work out for you?

No, I had to throw it away and use other wrappers for the filler/binder that came with that kit. I tried drying it out with time and heat and light and so forth and it would never burn at all, no matter the condition of the leaf; just turn black, bubble, and smell like burnt tire.
 

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No, I had to throw it away and use other wrappers for the filler/binder that came with that kit. I tried drying it out with time and heat and light and so forth and it would never burn at all, no matter the condition of the leaf; just turn black, bubble, and smell like burnt tire.

A good strong dose of salt petre might have been the needed additive. On the binder and the inside of the wrapper leaf.
 

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Unfortunately my saltpeter supply was a little short at the time. ;)
 

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Will do, glad you enjoyed it. Rolling and capping this weekend.
 

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A good strong dose of salt petre might have been the needed additive. On the binder and the inside of the wrapper leaf.

Ha ha, I remember you said that worked great! In Arizona right now, just sit the tip of the cigar in the sun, it will self light, LOL! Actually, I'll take any temp here before Florida's humidity. We don't sweat here, it evaporates before it becomes a problem.
 

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A good strong dose of salt petre might have been the needed additive. On the binder and the inside of the wrapper leaf.

I smoked my first home rolled melodioso y cremosa and it went great, but if I end up having issues with the maduro wrapper how would I go about applying the salt petre? Would I make a paste with it, or a solution?
 

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First Melodioso Cremosa smoke - very mild and sweet smoke, and a clean tobacco flavor. Next are some new rolls from my Oscuro y Rico kit, with some little scrap cigars in the middle. Making a mold tomorrow night with my carpenter buddy, but I'd like to get a tighter roll before I start using a mold to make them look good.. I'm trying to roll them as tight as I possibly can and they still come out a bit loose so I'm thinking of trying to just slowly raise the case of the filler to get them tight but not too tight..
 

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Flowing, I've recently been getting near the end of my Melodioso Cremosa supply, which was my second kit, rolled a few months ago. It really evolved after 2 months, got deep and pungent and I think twice as good. There was a period about 1 month ago where it was not as good as it was a few weeks earlier. Strange curve. I'm going to try to stick two of them aside and try one at 6 months and one at 1 year.

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Flowing,
Those rolls are looking great.
On the tightness of your roll:
I have found a mold helps some on this. I usually roll with my binder, and stick in the mold for about an hour, and then rotate the stick a quarter turn, and let sit for another hour or more, sometimes I leave over night depending on my schedule. My rolls are tighter and more uniform at that point and makes the application of the wrapper even smoother.

Good luck.
 

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Another approach to rolling a tight bunch is to use a double binder, with the filler in low case. Two binder leaves are laid on top of one another on the rolling board, then the filler is tightly rolled in it. The double leaf (in at least medium case) provides greater tensile strength, and allows you to roll a tighter bunch than if you use one binder to roll, then add a second binder.

The case of the binder will determine how much stress it will survive. If too low a case, it easily splits. If too high a case, it begins to disintegrate after the bunch is rolled. I routinely mist the proposed binder with water, then place it inside the fold of a gallon Ziplock that has been folded in half. It usually needs to stay there only long enough to allow me to de-stem and prepare the filler bunch. If there is any visible moisture on the binder when I'm ready to roll, I dab it with a dry paper towel to remove it.

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Thanks, Lew. These are a little down'n'dirty since I'm going to smoke them so soon rather than gift them after some aging. The one thing I have started to work on lately is that bit of using your fingernails to peel out the veins as you get near the head on the roll. I was always afraid of destroying the whole deal but so far it seems like a good thing when you're stuck with a really veiny wrapper.
 

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These are the final ten of my Corojo oscuro-wrapped test blends.

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Oh, I love test blends, great job btw. I really love the color of that wrapper! Also, you sure get a lot of leaves for wrapping from a pound of Corojo Oscuro. It's a pleasure to wrap with, a little stretchy reminiscent of Habano 2000, which I also love.
 

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Flowing,
Those rolls are looking great.
On the tightness of your roll:
I have found a mold helps some on this. I usually roll with my binder, and stick in the mold for about an hour, and then rotate the stick a quarter turn, and let sit for another hour or more, sometimes I leave over night depending on my schedule. My rolls are tighter and more uniform at that point and makes the application of the wrapper even smoother.

Good luck.

That is a great method, Lew. It also helps the wrapper stay uniform, but I guess that's what you meant. Good post.
 

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Oh, I love test blends, great job btw. I really love the color of that wrapper! Also, you sure get a lot of leaves for wrapping from a pound of Corojo Oscuro. It's a pleasure to wrap with, a little stretchy reminiscent of Habano 2000, which I also love.

I think I prefer it to the Habano 2000 wrapper, though I've only used that one in a kit so have no blending experience with it. It is very similar to work with. In a perfect world I'd like something very similar but a little less veiny and a little thinner (it's not the easiest leaf to do good triple caps with), but not exactly Ecuador shade....
 
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